{"podcast":{"title":"Higgle: The B2B Sales Club","slug":"higgle-the-b2b-sales-club-6622259","podcast_index_feed_id":6622259,"rss_url":"https://feeds.libsyn.com/480273/rss","website_url":"https://piscari.com","image_url":"https://static.libsyn.com/p/assets/9/8/2/4/9824346868e96407e55e3c100dce7605/Cover-Higgle_B2B_Sales_Club.jpg","author":"Mike Lander","episode_count":142,"summary":"This is Higgle: The B2B Sales Club Podcast, where we bring you actionable insights about sales RFPs, Sales Negotiations and difficult Procurement discussions. It's all about helping you win more deals, and hitting your sales quota. We talk to sales leaders, brand leaders and procurement leaders about lessons learnt on their journey to win more sales deals and get better negotiated outcomes. The podcast is hosted by Mike Lander, an ex procurement director and entrepreneur, talking to guests about their experiences - the good, the bad and the ugly. Please subscribe to get updates when new episodes are released.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-13T10:20:55.569065+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/higgle-the-b2b-sales-club-6622259"},"episode":{"title":"What Most Agencies Get Wrong About Referrals vs Real Partnerships with Dave Plunkett","slug":"what-most-agencies-get-wrong-about-referrals-vs-real-partnerships-with-dave-plunkett","published_at":"2026-03-23T06:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/higgle-the-b2b-sales-club-6622259/what-most-agencies-get-wrong-about-referrals-vs-real-partnerships-with-dave-plunkett","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/higgle-the-b2b-sales-club-6622259","url":"https://9e87cc1f-f19f-4fe0-9a73-46635c121ed2.libsyn.com/what-most-agencies-get-wrong-about-referrals-vs-real-partnerships-with-dave-plunkett","audio_url":"https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/9e87cc1f-f19f-4fe0-9a73-46635c121ed2/Higgle_-_Dave_Plunkett.mp3?dest-id=4084452","summary":"Are you missing out on consistent revenue because you don't truly understand how partnerships actually work? Dave Plunkett, Founder of Collaboration Junkie, joins us today to unpack what partnerships really are and why so many agencies don't utilize them properly. He explains the critical difference between referrals and true commercial partnerships, and why trust-based selling is becoming more powerful as outbound becomes noisier and less credible. Dave introduces his D.A.N.C.E. framework and challenges common assumptions about cross-referrals, tech partnerships, and why \"having lots of coffees\" doesn't equal a strategy. As we continue, we explore how to design systems that make partnerships scalable, how to reward referrals without creating awkward incentives, and why most businesses obsess over finding partners before doing the foundational work. Dave shares real examples of agencies generating significant revenue in just weeks by activating relationships they already have. We talk about ecosystem mapping, value chains, commercialization, co-marketing with tech platforms, and the subtle but powerful art of nurturing long-term trust. Topics covered during this episode include: The distinction between informal referrals and structured commercial partnerships. Why partnerships require shared commercial outcomes, not casual goodwill. How poor outbound personalization increases the value of partnerships. The importance of understanding your customer value chain position. How upstream partners generate more consistent referral opportunities. Why downstream partners create different commercial dynamics. Why the risk of assuming partnerships must be evenly reciprocal. What a compelling partner value proposition actually looks like. How to commercialize partnerships without…","meta_description":"Are you missing out on consistent revenue because you don't truly understand how partnerships actually work? Dave Plunkett, Founder of Collaboration Junki…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":1613,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/higgle-the-b2b-sales-club-6622259/episodes/what-most-agencies-get-wrong-about-referrals-vs-real-partnerships-with-dave-plunkett/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/higgle-the-b2b-sales-club-6622259/what-most-agencies-get-wrong-about-referrals-vs-real-partnerships-with-dave-plunkett.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}