{"podcast":{"title":"Harvard Business Review","slug":"harvard-business-review-7777387","podcast_index_feed_id":7777387,"rss_url":"https://feeds.megaphone.fm/VG7900701114","website_url":null,"image_url":"https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/980142f0-0d9c-11f1-9b6f-b39130a8b54a/image/fd144eac00da8bd04368206590cf5ad8.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&max-w=3000&max-h=3000&fit=crop&auto=format,compress","author":"HBR","episode_count":511,"summary":"At Harvard Business Review, we believe in management. If the world’s organizations and institutions were run more effectively, if our leaders made better decisions, if people worked more productively, we believe that all of us — employees, bosses, customers, our families, and the people our businesses affect — would be better off. We try to arm our readers with ideas that help them become smarter, more creative, and more courageous in their work. We encourage comments, critiques, and questions. We expect our community to be a safe space for respectful, constructive, and thought-provoking discussion. We reserve the right to remove or turn off comments at our discretion. We do not tolerate bullying, name-calling, or abusive language related to identity, including race, gender, ethnicity, religion, sexuality, age, or region; spam; copyright violation; extreme profanity; or p*rnography.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-25T12:22:10.972032+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/harvard-business-review-7777387"},"episode":{"title":"The Innovation System Behind Moderna’s Covid-19 Vaccine | HBR IdeaCast | Podcast","slug":"the-innovation-system-behind-moderna-s-covid-19-vaccine-hbr-ideacast-podcast","published_at":"2026-07-20T11:30:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/harvard-business-review-7777387/the-innovation-system-behind-moderna-s-covid-19-vaccine-hbr-ideacast-podcast","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/harvard-business-review-7777387","url":"https://traffic.megaphone.fm/VG1978808484.mp3","audio_url":"https://traffic.megaphone.fm/VG1978808484.mp3","summary":"The Innovation System Behind Moderna’s Covid-19 Vaccine | HBR IdeaCast | Podcast 30 Nov 2022 --- Noubar Afeyan, cofounder and chair of Moderna Therapeutics and CEO of Flagship Pioneering, says that the breakthrough innovation behind the company’s Covid-19 vaccine came not as a stroke of luck, but from a repeatable process. He outlines a system called “emergent discovery” that involves working back from future ideals, pioneering in novel spaces, encouraging unreasonable ideas, and persistently questioning hypotheses. And he says this process applies to other industries besides life sciences. Afeyan is the coauthor, with HBS professor Gary Pisano, of the HBR article “What Evolution Can Teach Us About Innovation.” This episode originally aired on HBR IdeaCast on September 23, 2021. Listen to more HBR IdeaCast episodes here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLzAU8TPKsJuaxff5Cp0P2DKE_tFyaWOOa You can also listen to this episode on HBR.org, and wherever you listen to podcasts: - HBR.org (transcript available here): https://hbr.org/podcast/2021/09/the-innovation-system-behind-modernas-covid-19-vaccine - Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-innovation-system-behind-modernas-covid-19-vaccine/id152022135?i=1000536391404 - Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/67JOI782PG96G0JU0rMaYs?si=4866c6aef29b4ac9 - Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/show/hbr-ideacast/episode/the-innovation-system-behind-modernas-covid-19-vaccine-87020210 - Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cDovL2ZlZWRzLmhhcnZhcmRidXNpbmVzcy5vcmcvaGFydmFyZGJ1c2luZXNzL2lkZWFjYXN0/episode/dGFnOmF1ZGlvLmhici5vcmcsMjAwNi0wNS0wODppZGVhY2FzdC4wODIw?sa=X&ved=0CAIQuIEEahcKEwjYno6K3NH7AhUAAAAAHQAAAAAQLA Series Description: A weekly podcast featuring the leading thinkers in busines…","meta_description":"The Innovation System Behind Moderna’s Covid-19 Vaccine | HBR IdeaCast | Podcast 30 Nov 2022 --- Noubar Afeyan, cofounder and chair of Moderna Therapeutic…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":1805,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/harvard-business-review-7777387/episodes/the-innovation-system-behind-moderna-s-covid-19-vaccine-hbr-ideacast-podcast/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/harvard-business-review-7777387/the-innovation-system-behind-moderna-s-covid-19-vaccine-hbr-ideacast-podcast.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}