{"podcast":{"title":"Hacker Valley Studio","slug":"hacker-valley-studio-344898","podcast_index_feed_id":344898,"rss_url":"https://feed.podbean.com/HackerValleyStudio/feed.xml","website_url":"https://hackervalley.com","image_url":"https://pbcdn1.podbean.com/imglogo/image-logo/5354112/HVS-2024-AlbumCover.png","author":"Hacker Valley Media","episode_count":433,"summary":"Welcome back… to the show! Hacker Valley Studio podcast features Host Ron Eddings, as he explores the world of cybersecurity through the eyes of professionals in the industry. We cover everything from inspirational real-life stories in tech, to highlighting influential cybersecurity companies, and we do so in a fun and enthusiastic way. We’re making cybersecurity accessible, creating a whole new form of entertainment: cybertainment.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-29T02:18:14.934816+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/hacker-valley-studio-344898"},"episode":{"title":"When Cybercrime Learned How to Make Money and Never Looked Back with Graham Cluley","slug":"when-cybercrime-learned-how-to-make-money-and-never-looked-back-with-graham-cluley","published_at":"2026-01-25T14:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/hacker-valley-studio-344898/when-cybercrime-learned-how-to-make-money-and-never-looked-back-with-graham-cluley","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/hacker-valley-studio-344898","url":"https://HackerValleyStudio.podbean.com/e/when-cybercrime-learned-how-to-make-money-and-never-looked-back-with-graham-cluley/","audio_url":"https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/3yyyfx6da67d782r/HVS26_EP411_Graham_Cluley_Rev17vqv7.mp3","summary":"Cybersecurity didn’t start as a billion-dollar crime machine. It started as pranks, ego, and curiosity. That origin story explains almost everything that’s breaking today. Ron sits down with Graham Cluley, one of the earliest antivirus developers turned trusted cyber voice, to trace how malware evolved from digital graffiti into organized financial warfare. From floppy disks and casino-style viruses to ransomware, extortion, and agentic AI, the conversation shows how early decisions still shape today’s most dangerous assumptions. Graham also explains why AI feels inevitable, but still deeply unfinished inside modern organizations. Impactful Moments00:00 - Introduction04:16 - Malware before money existed07:30 - Cheesy biscuits changed cybersecurity13:10 - When documents became dangerous14:33 - Crime replaced curiosity15:23 - Sony proved no one was safe20:15 - Reporting hacks without causing harm24:01 - AI replacing penetration testers29:18 - Agentic AI shifts the threat model36:30 - Why rushing AI breaks trust LinksConnect with our guest on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/grahamcluley/ Check out our upcoming events: https://www.hackervalley.com/livestreams Join our creative mastermind and stand out as a cybersecurity professional:https://www.patreon.com/hackervalleystudio Love Hacker Valley Studio? Pick up some swag: https://store.hackervalley.com Continue the conversation by joining our Discord: https://hackervalley.com/discord Become a sponsor of the show to amplify your brand: https://hackervalley.com/work-with-us/","meta_description":"Cybersecurity didn’t start as a billion-dollar crime machine. It started as pranks, ego, and curiosity. That origin story explains almost everything that’…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2238,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/hacker-valley-studio-344898/episodes/when-cybercrime-learned-how-to-make-money-and-never-looked-back-with-graham-cluley/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/hacker-valley-studio-344898/when-cybercrime-learned-how-to-make-money-and-never-looked-back-with-graham-cluley.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}