{"podcast":{"title":"Growing Up In Polygamy","slug":"growing-up-in-polygamy-5126332","podcast_index_feed_id":5126332,"rss_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/77ed0a04/podcast/rss","website_url":"https://growingupinpolygamy.com","image_url":"https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/staging/podcast_uploaded_nologo/20020233/20020233-1696381617149-359854adf78a9.jpg","author":"Growing Up In Polygamy","episode_count":321,"summary":"Sam sharing what it was like growing up in the polygamous FLDS group, his experiences leaving the group when he was 18 and his journey to where he is now. His wife Melissa is his co-host, asking the questions that everyone from the outside is thinking.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-19T18:19:43.565436+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/growing-up-in-polygamy-5126332"},"episode":{"title":"What It ACTUALLY Takes to Take Down a Cult Leader w/Mike King from @ProfilingEvil ​","slug":"what-it-actually-takes-to-take-down-a-cult-leader-w-mike-king-from-profilingevil","published_at":"2026-07-04T19:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/growing-up-in-polygamy-5126332/what-it-actually-takes-to-take-down-a-cult-leader-w-mike-king-from-profilingevil","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/growing-up-in-polygamy-5126332","url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/growingupinpolygamy/episodes/What-It-ACTUALLY-Takes-to-Take-Down-a-Cult-Leader-wMike-King-from-ProfilingEvil-e3lkmkt","audio_url":"https://traffic.megaphone.fm/APO5560553869.mp3","summary":"After watching Trust Me: A False Prophet, one question kept coming up: Why did it take so long to stop Samuel Bateman? If law enforcement knew about allegations of abuse, why wasn't he arrested sooner? What kind of evidence does it actually take to investigate and convict a cult leader? In this episode, we sit down with retired law enforcement officer and author Mike King to explore what happens behind the scenes during investigations into abusive religious leaders. We discuss the legal standards prosecutors must meet, why investigations involving coercive control and closed religious communities often take years, and the challenges of building a case that can result in a conviction. Using the Samuel Bateman case featured in Trust Me: A False Prophet as a real-world example, we examine what the justice system did well, where it fell short, and why investigators sometimes have to wait until they have enough evidence to ensure a dangerous leader is held accountable. Whether you're interested in the FLDS, high-demand religions, true crime, religious abuse, or the legal process behind major criminal investigations, this conversation provides valuable insight into why justice can take longer than many people expect. If you've watched Trust Me: A False Prophet, we'd love to hear your thoughts in the comments: What surprised you most about the investigation into Samuel Bateman? If you enjoy our conversations about the FLDS, the Kingston Group ("The Order"), the AUB, and other high-demand religious communities, don't forget to like this video, subscribe, and share it with someone who might find it helpful. Thank you for supporting our mission to create compassion for communities that have been misunderstood, marginalized, and abused by their leaders while giving surv…","meta_description":"After watching Trust Me: A False Prophet, one question kept coming up: Why did it take so long to stop Samuel Bateman? If law enforcement knew about alleg…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2745,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/growing-up-in-polygamy-5126332/episodes/what-it-actually-takes-to-take-down-a-cult-leader-w-mike-king-from-profilingevil/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/growing-up-in-polygamy-5126332/what-it-actually-takes-to-take-down-a-cult-leader-w-mike-king-from-profilingevil.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}