{"podcast":{"title":"GRC Uncensored","slug":"grc-uncensored-7039393","podcast_index_feed_id":7039393,"rss_url":"https://feeds.acast.com/public/shows/6702dcb9c88f09c3e0b9a10a","website_url":"https://feeds.acast.com/public/shows/grc-uncensored","image_url":"https://assets.pippa.io/shows/6702dcb9c88f09c3e0b9a10a/1741868280073-98dc972f-f9c8-433b-ab33-a977b7f15a82.jpeg","author":"Elliot Volkman and Troy Fine","episode_count":24,"summary":"GRC Uncensored is an experimental podcast designed to elevate real conversations with GRC professionals, auditors, regulators, and those building programs around it. Your hosts are Troy Fine and Elliot Volkman. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-23T06:20:29.446813+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/grc-uncensored-7039393"},"episode":{"title":"AI Guardrails, Foot Guns, and the Ostrich Problem","slug":"ai-guardrails-foot-guns-and-the-ostrich-problem","published_at":"2025-09-25T10:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/grc-uncensored-7039393/ai-guardrails-foot-guns-and-the-ostrich-problem","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/grc-uncensored-7039393","url":"https://grcpod.substack.com/","audio_url":"https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/6702dcb9c88f09c3e0b9a10a/e/68d44770d4ea86dd593c5baa/media.mp3","summary":"This week on GRC Uncensored , hosts Troy Fine and Elliot Volkman sat down with Merritt Baer , Chief Security Officer at Enkrypt AI , for a candid conversation about the collision between AI, governance, and security. Merritt brought decades of CISO experience — from AWS to the intelligence community — and didn’t hold back, fully embracing our podcast name, on what’s hype, what’s real, and what CISOs should be doing today.  Key Moments [00:03:00] – How Merritt uses ChatGPT to re-voice her own drafts — and why she immediately strips out the “saccharine” endings. [00:05:30] – Why security and innovation don’t need to “hold hands” — they just need shared expectations. [00:08:45] – The “foot guns” moment : how an accounting firm’s chatbot started teaching customers to hide assets from the IRS. [00:13:30] – Why most enterprises don’t even know where AI is being used internally. [00:15:00] – How to build guardrails that are realistic, enforceable, and tuned over time. [00:24:30] – Why “ostrich” policies will fail — and how enforcement actions, not regulations, will shape AI accountability. [00:40:00] – Merritt’s closing advice for CISOs: you don’t need to be an expert, but you do need a plan. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.","meta_description":"This week on GRC Uncensored , hosts Troy Fine and Elliot Volkman sat down with Merritt Baer , Chief Security Officer at Enkrypt AI , for a candid conversa…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2599,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/grc-uncensored-7039393/episodes/ai-guardrails-foot-guns-and-the-ostrich-problem/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/grc-uncensored-7039393/ai-guardrails-foot-guns-and-the-ostrich-problem.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}