{"podcast":{"title":"Good Faith","slug":"good-faith-4507856","podcast_index_feed_id":4507856,"rss_url":"https://feeds.libsyn.com/460248/rss","website_url":"https://redeemingbabel.org/podcast/","image_url":"https://static.libsyn.com/p/assets/f/d/8/d/fd8db46436f6be6c16c3140a3186d450/Podcast_Square_Logo1.png","author":"Good Faith","episode_count":256,"summary":"Join host Curtis Chang and his friends as they follow Jesus and make sense of the world. With expertise, thoughtfulness, and humor, they discuss how Christian faith intersects with culture, politics, work, entertainment, and other aspects of life. Good Faith is produced by Redeeming Babel. Good Faith is ranked in the top .5 percent of all podcasts.","last_synced_at":"2026-06-25T18:22:48.323993+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/good-faith-4507856"},"episode":{"title":"Pete Wehner on Pope Leo, Trump, and Protestant America","slug":"pete-wehner-on-pope-leo-trump-and-protestant-america","published_at":"2026-06-25T08:30:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/good-faith-4507856/pete-wehner-on-pope-leo-trump-and-protestant-america","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/good-faith-4507856","url":"https://6d05c356-6d50-44a9-9115-39d578e09935.libsyn.com/pete-wehner-on-pope-leo-trump-and-protestant-america","audio_url":"https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/6d05c356-6d50-44a9-9115-39d578e09935/Pete_Wehner._AUDIO_V2.mp3?dest-id=3880785","summary":"How Are Protestants Navigating a Moral and Spiritual Vacuum in Evangelicalism? Host Curtis Chang talks with former White House staffer and Atlantic columnist Pete Wehner about why Pope Leo XIV is resonating with Protestants and evangelicals despite historic theological divides. Together, they explore the Pope's moral leadership while contrasting his dignified, intellectually grounded public witness with Donald Trump's increasingly erratic influence on evangelical political culture. The conversation examines a perceived spiritual leadership vacuum within Protestantism and calls pastors, congregations, and followers of Jesus to cultivate beauty, goodness, and truth as a long-term path toward renewing Christian public witness. 00:34 - Introduction to Pope Leo XIV's Influence 02:29 - Is There a Protestant Appreciation for Catholicism? 03:59 - What Is This Pope's Impact on Public Theology? 06:06 - Papal Influence in Past Administrations 11:19 - The Collapse of Evangelical Public Theology 14:18 - Can Protestants Still Exert Moral Influence? 21:16 - The \"Mad King\" and Trump's Cognitive Decline 28:42 - What Can Pastors Do? 32:00 - The Importance of Beauty, Goodness, and Truth 37:08 - What Is The Pope's Transcendent Influence? Sign up for the Anxiety Opportunity Course Use the code: Goodfaith Sign up for The After Party Sign up for The Good List Referenced in the Episode: Pete Wehner's article \"The American Pope vs. the American President\" Pete Wehner's article \"The Apotheosis of Donald Trump\" Pope Leo XIV's Encyclical Letter: Magnifica Humanitas The Madness of King George (YouTube free with ads) David Bentley Hart's The Beauty of the Infinite Wordsworth's The Prelude, Book 14 Good Faith's course: The After Party Scriptures Referenced: 1 Timothy 3 (ESV) Titus 1 (ESV) Protestant…","meta_description":"How Are Protestants Navigating a Moral and Spiritual Vacuum in Evangelicalism? Host Curtis Chang talks with former White House staffer and Atlantic column…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2520,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/good-faith-4507856/episodes/pete-wehner-on-pope-leo-trump-and-protestant-america/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/good-faith-4507856/pete-wehner-on-pope-leo-trump-and-protestant-america.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}