{"podcast":{"title":"Getting Smart Podcast","slug":"getting-smart-podcast-3462","podcast_index_feed_id":3462,"rss_url":"https://gettingsmart.libsyn.com/rss","website_url":"https://gettingsmart.com","image_url":"https://static.libsyn.com/p/assets/d/7/9/8/d7989dbfed1f20cfd959afa2a1bf1c87/Podcast_Thumbnails_600x600_2500_x_2500_px.png","author":"Getting Smart","episode_count":500,"summary":"This podcast has over 500 episodes highlighting developing trends in K-12 education, postsecondary and lifelong learning. Each week, Getting Smart team members interview students, leading authors, experts and practitioners in research, tech, entrepreneurship and leadership to bring listeners innovative and actionable strategies in education leadership. Be sure to also check out GettingSmart.com to stay on the cutting edge of innovations in learning.","last_synced_at":"2026-09-26T04:21:13.831751+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/getting-smart-podcast-3462"},"episode":{"title":"Are schools collecting too much data? | Dr. Kelly Page","slug":"are-schools-collecting-too-much-data-dr-kelly-page","published_at":"2026-09-09T16:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/getting-smart-podcast-3462/are-schools-collecting-too-much-data-dr-kelly-page","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/getting-smart-podcast-3462","url":"https://gettingsmart.libsyn.com/she-says-schools-are-collecting-too-much-data-dr-kelly-page","audio_url":"https://traffic.libsyn.com/clean/secure/gettingsmart/When_Credentials_Cause_Harm__Conversation_on_Equity.mp4?dest-id=573092","summary":"Digital badges and credentials promise to finally show what a learner actually knows. Dr. Kelly Page says that promise has a dark side nobody's talking about. In this episode, host Mason Pashia talks with Dr. Kelly Page, a social design ethnographer and author of \"When Credentials Cause Harm: Unpacking the Risks of Verifiable Learning and Work Records.\" Kelly has spent years documenting how well-intentioned credentialing systems can end up excluding, surveilling, or flattening the very people they're supposed to empower. They get into who actually controls a learner's record, why some of the most marginalized communities are also the most wary of the video documentation these systems rely on, and why more data isn't the same as the right data. Kelly makes the case for a future built on self-sovereign data, where students and workers, not districts or vendors, own and control their own records, and shares practical advice for school leaders on what to ask before adopting any new credentialing technology. Guest Links Kelly's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drkellypage/ Live What You Love (LWYL Studio): lwylstudio.com When Credentials Cause Harm (book): https://www.amazon.com/When-Credentials-Cause-Harm-Verifiable/dp/1969861029","meta_description":"Digital badges and credentials promise to finally show what a learner actually knows. Dr. Kelly Page says that promise has a dark side nobody's talking ab…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2746,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/getting-smart-podcast-3462/episodes/are-schools-collecting-too-much-data-dr-kelly-page/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/getting-smart-podcast-3462/are-schools-collecting-too-much-data-dr-kelly-page.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}