{"podcast":{"title":"Getting Smart Podcast","slug":"getting-smart-podcast-3462","podcast_index_feed_id":3462,"rss_url":"https://gettingsmart.libsyn.com/rss","website_url":"https://gettingsmart.com","image_url":"https://static.libsyn.com/p/assets/d/7/9/8/d7989dbfed1f20cfd959afa2a1bf1c87/Podcast_Thumbnails_600x600_2500_x_2500_px.png","author":"Getting Smart","episode_count":500,"summary":"This podcast has over 500 episodes highlighting developing trends in K-12 education, postsecondary and lifelong learning. Each week, Getting Smart team members interview students, leading authors, experts and practitioners in research, tech, entrepreneurship and leadership to bring listeners innovative and actionable strategies in education leadership. Be sure to also check out GettingSmart.com to stay on the cutting edge of innovations in learning.","last_synced_at":"2026-06-17T16:20:44.864356+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/getting-smart-podcast-3462"},"episode":{"title":"Are Framing and Storytelling Our Next Steps in Education Reform? | Nat Kendall-Taylor","slug":"are-framing-and-storytelling-our-next-steps-in-education-reform-nat-kendall-taylor","published_at":"2026-02-25T08:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/getting-smart-podcast-3462/are-framing-and-storytelling-our-next-steps-in-education-reform-nat-kendall-taylor","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/getting-smart-podcast-3462","url":"https://gettingsmart.libsyn.com/are-framing-and-storytelling-our-next-steps-in-education-reform-nat-kendall-taylor","audio_url":"https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/gettingsmart/Can_Education_Escape_Its_Own_Narrative_.mp3?dest-id=573092","summary":"In the latest episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Mason Pashia sits down with Nat Kendall-Taylor, CEO of Frameworks Institute, to explore the critical role of narrative in education reform. They discuss how framing and storytelling can combat fatalism, foster engagement, and create systemic change in education. Together, they dive into the challenges of building cohesive education narratives, the importance of youth-led movements, and the potential of shifting education's focus from future preparation to fostering community and well-being in the present. Tune in to learn how innovative messaging can shape the future of learning and inspire action. Outline (00:12) Introduction & Framework Institute (08:35) The Education Narrative Challenge (10:58) Understanding Cultural Mindsets (16:15) Narrative Strategy & Movements (36:33) Reimagining Education's Purpose (44:21) Vision for Transformed Education Links Watch the full video here LinkedIn Frame Works Institute The 74: We Keep Rolling Out Good Ideas Without the Story. That's Why They Stall","meta_description":"In the latest episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Mason Pashia sits down with Nat Kendall-Taylor, CEO of Frameworks Institute, to explore the critical r…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3195,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/getting-smart-podcast-3462/episodes/are-framing-and-storytelling-our-next-steps-in-education-reform-nat-kendall-taylor/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/getting-smart-podcast-3462/are-framing-and-storytelling-our-next-steps-in-education-reform-nat-kendall-taylor.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}