{"podcast":{"title":"Future Learning Design Podcast","slug":"future-learning-design-podcast-2962232","podcast_index_feed_id":2962232,"rss_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/2b5499dc/podcast/rss","website_url":"https://www.goodimpactlabs.com/podcast","image_url":"https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/staging/podcast_uploaded_nologo/7169647/7169647-1725084156574-72a4b24e57367.jpg","author":"Tim Logan","episode_count":245,"summary":"We are stuck in an old paradigm, with institutional structures that were built for a world that no longer exists. Within education, passionate entrepreneurs & committed citizens are no longer waiting for these broken formal institutions to be reformed. All over the world, they're designing & building their own local responses with relationships at their core. These are the education ecosystems that our young people need and out of which new institutions will emerge. This podcast is an inquiry into these fundamental changes and an invitation to join the movement to help nurture positive change.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-19T22:20:50.236579+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/future-learning-design-podcast-2962232"},"episode":{"title":"Education is Moving in Radical Ways - A Conversation with Prof. Thomas Nail","slug":"education-is-moving-in-radical-ways-a-conversation-with-prof-thomas-nail","published_at":"2026-01-31T23:05:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/future-learning-design-podcast-2962232/education-is-moving-in-radical-ways-a-conversation-with-prof-thomas-nail","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/future-learning-design-podcast-2962232","url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/futurelearningdesign/episodes/Education-is-Moving-in-Radical-Ways---A-Conversation-with-Prof--Thomas-Nail-e3ef40h","audio_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/2b5499dc/podcast/play/114838993/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-0-31%2Fb952daac-6f6f-959f-1d83-33ca8b265320.mp3","summary":"The following conversation is definitely a wild ride*! It's not an argument often made, but I believe that one of the effects of our industrialised education systems is to create the illusion that the world is full of somewhat fixed and ordered things, that don't move or change much. Of course, we teach our children about orbiting planets, the water cycle or change in historical periods. But, for example, in episode 208, Vanessa Andreotti gave a great example of how we name objects in the world, such as trees, in order to teach about them. In doing so, we draw a boundary around a tree that separates it from all non-trees. This sounds kind of philosophical and abstract, but I think the effects of it are very real. Most young people then learn to read the world as a collection of more or less fixed objects, rather than as patterns of relations. My guest this week has been exploring the depths of these questions for a long time through the lens of movement. As you will hear, Professor Thomas Nail started this line of inquiry researching human migration, and went on to develop an entirely new discipline of the philosophy of movement by pulling at the threads of how far our collective obsession with order and stasis goes! And it definitely goes back at least a couple of thousand years! Thomas Nail is a Distinguished Scholar and Professor of Philosophy at the University of Denver and author of numerous books, including The Figure of the Migrant, Theory of the Border, Marx in Motion, Theory of the Image, Theory of the Object, Theory of the Earth, Lucretius I, II, III, Returning to Revolution, and Being and Motion. Some useful links: https://liberalarts.du.edu/about/people/thomas-andrew-nail https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Nail The Philosophy of Movement website: https://…","meta_description":"The following conversation is definitely a wild ride*! It's not an argument often made, but I believe that one of the effects of our industrialised educat…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3574,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/future-learning-design-podcast-2962232/episodes/education-is-moving-in-radical-ways-a-conversation-with-prof-thomas-nail/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/future-learning-design-podcast-2962232/education-is-moving-in-radical-ways-a-conversation-with-prof-thomas-nail.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}