{"podcast":{"title":"Frontier CMO Podcast by Think with Google","slug":"frontier-cmo-podcast-by-think-with-google-7619785","podcast_index_feed_id":7619785,"rss_url":"https://feeds.megaphone.fm/PDP6186156462","website_url":"https://www.youtube.com/thinkwithgoogle","image_url":"https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/a6bf2a5c-cec5-11f0-ba01-af363fc5f5ad/image/63f3c08db64525db00becb455769e5e4.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&max-w=3000&max-h=3000&fit=crop&auto=format,compress","author":"Presented by Think with Google","episode_count":25,"summary":"In the AI era, marketing should be unstoppable, and its future is being written in real time. Frontier CMO talks to the leaders shaping it. Join Joshua Spanier, Google's VP of AI and Marketing Strategy, in his deep-dives with the leaders, marketers, technologists who are rewriting the playbook. Welcome to the Frontier. We’re asking the questions other won’t: How do marketing leaders prove ROI to executives? What does a modern marketing strategy look like when AI and analytics are reshaping the rules every day? Each episode of Frontier CMO explores the real-world playbooks leaders are using to navigate the AI-powered landscape. From marketing trends and branding breakthroughs to advancements in digital marketing, social media, content marketing, and B2B marketing, Frontier CMO breaks down what’s working and what’s not to help you navigate this new landscape. Subscribe to Frontier CMO on YouTube, Apple, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts to get alerted when the first episode drops in January.","last_synced_at":"2026-06-04T18:18:36.030552+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/frontier-cmo-podcast-by-think-with-google-7619785"},"episode":{"title":"Gary Vaynerchuk on Why Creative, Not Media, Is the Real Growth Engine","slug":"gary-vaynerchuk-on-why-creative-not-media-is-the-real-growth-engine","published_at":"2026-01-29T09:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/frontier-cmo-podcast-by-think-with-google-7619785/gary-vaynerchuk-on-why-creative-not-media-is-the-real-growth-engine","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/frontier-cmo-podcast-by-think-with-google-7619785","url":"https://traffic.megaphone.fm/PDP9417736932.mp3?updated=1769621481","audio_url":"https://traffic.megaphone.fm/PDP9417736932.mp3?updated=1769621481","summary":"Brands are currently caught between two realities: the pretty strategy deck and the real world where attention is the currency. Gary Vaynerchuk, CEO of VaynerMedia joins Josh Spanier, VP of AI & Marketing Strategy at Google to discuss why traditional brand models are failing and which channels remain the C-suite’s most misunderstood growth levers. Gary argues the bottleneck isn’t media—it’s creative slowed by excessive approvals and organizations built for campaigns rather than culture. To win, brands must collapse the walls between media and production, treating social as a daily operating system. This is a candid conversation for any leader ready to bridge the gap between boardroom theory and real-world business results. 00:00 — Creative vs. Media: What Actually Drives Results 01:38 — Practicing in the Trenches, Not the Decks 02:38 — The Real Role of the CMO in 2025–2026 03:51 — Performance vs. Brand CMOs: Why Both Miss the Mark 05:13 — “Day Trading Attention” and Measuring Real Outcomes 07:28 — Creative Is the Variable of Success 09:49 — LinkedIn Is the B2B World’s TikTok 11:21 — Relevance at Scale Beats “Matching Luggage” 13:49 — Why Production, Creative & Media Must Merge 15:05 — Who Wins in an AI-Powered Marketing World 18:42 — Rebuilding an Agency for the AI Era 21:06 — Brand Means Different Things to Different People 26:07 — How to Pitch Marketing to the CFO 30:41 — Rapid-Fire: Metrics, Media & Buzzwords 32:05 — Field Notes from the Frontier","meta_description":"Brands are currently caught between two realities: the pretty strategy deck and the real world where attention is the currency. Gary Vaynerchuk, CEO of Va…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2006,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/frontier-cmo-podcast-by-think-with-google-7619785/episodes/gary-vaynerchuk-on-why-creative-not-media-is-the-real-growth-engine/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/frontier-cmo-podcast-by-think-with-google-7619785/gary-vaynerchuk-on-why-creative-not-media-is-the-real-growth-engine.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}