{"podcast":{"title":"For The Love With Jen Hatmaker Podcast","slug":"for-the-love-with-jen-hatmaker-podcast-830534","podcast_index_feed_id":830534,"rss_url":"https://feeds.megaphone.fm/for-the-love","website_url":null,"image_url":"https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/b14f81be-9458-11ee-8137-3b707bfe63c2/image/b7e4b9c2e99dc89c47b05e9991286274.png?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&max-w=3000&max-h=3000&fit=crop&auto=format,compress","author":"Jen Hatmaker","episode_count":597,"summary":"New York Times bestselling author Jen Hatmaker and her longtime friend, Amy Hardin, have arrived in the middle years — and they couldn’t be happier about it. Each has navigated the ins and outs of life — from careers, to parenting, marriage (and, for Jen, divorce), spiritual evolution, and the joys of being hardcore Gen Xers. With each weekly episode, Jen and Amy serve as our “everywoman” guides to all the seasons — past, present, and future — as they walk excitedly and tenaciously into the second half of life. While Jen and Amy have plenty of wisdom to share — and some pretty hilarious stories, too — they don’t claim to know it all. That's why they invite some of the most interesting and accomplished guests to the podcast, bringing insight, expertise, and understanding to the most relevant topics of our time. From Jen and Amy’s compelling conversations with guests to their witty banter (and the occasional eye-rolls at the absurdities of life), they’re here reassure you that you’re not alone in this game of life. It’s “For the Love” of all that is good, justified, exasperating, exhilarating, real, fun — and so much more.","last_synced_at":null,"page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/for-the-love-with-jen-hatmaker-podcast-830534"},"episode":{"title":"Dr. Thema Bryant: How to Find, Keep, and Nurture the People Who Truly See You (By Starting with Yourself)","slug":"dr-thema-bryant-how-to-find-keep-and-nurture-the-people-who-truly-see-you-by-starting-with-yourself","published_at":"2026-05-15T07:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/for-the-love-with-jen-hatmaker-podcast-830534/dr-thema-bryant-how-to-find-keep-and-nurture-the-people-who-truly-see-you-by-starting-with-yourself","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/for-the-love-with-jen-hatmaker-podcast-830534","url":"https://jenhatmaker.com/podcast/","audio_url":"https://pdst.fm/e/tracking.swap.fm/track/v9Uiw3bGr54f6BVZKSyc/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.megaphone.fm/CAD8539865447.mp3?updated=1779230406","summary":"Description:Some conversations are so good, they deserve a second life. As we've been building out our Chosen Family series — exploring what it actually takes to find, keep, and nurture the people who truly see you — we kept coming back to this tender conversation because it was resonant then but it hits differently now. Dr. Thema Bryant is a psychologist, author, professor, ordained minister, and former president of the American Psychological Association. Her books Matters of the Heart and Homecoming have resonated deeply with women navigating the beautiful, complicated work of belonging — and her clarity on what it means to truly come home to yourself is exactly the foundation this series needed. In this conversation, Jen and Amy dig into: Why midlife can feel isolating even when you're surrounded by people — and what's really going on beneath that loneliness How to grieve friendships that have run their season while making genuine room for new ones The difference between performing friendship and actually being emotionally available for it Why our wellness matters more than our loyalty — and what it looks like to stop sacrificing yourself in the name of showing up for everyone else Practical tools like writing vows to yourself and how to build community from scratch when one was never ready-made for you Because here's what we keep coming back to: you cannot truly choose people if you haven't first chosen yourself. This conversation is the starting place. Thought-provoking Quotes: When I observe someone making a polite but clear boundary, I respect it. I’m impressed. – Jen Hatmaker Can you come to the place where you admit, I miss myself? And myself is not my labor. 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