{"podcast":{"title":"For Leaders By Leaders","slug":"for-leaders-by-leaders-7058839","podcast_index_feed_id":7058839,"rss_url":"https://feed.podbean.com/ForLeadersByLeaders/feed.xml","website_url":"https://ForLeadersByLeaders.podbean.com","image_url":"https://pbcdn1.podbean.com/imglogo/image-logo/19479561/Master_graphic_corregido_2_e75fhw.png","author":"Kathy Andrews","episode_count":31,"summary":"You’re a good leader. You might even be a great one. Whether you’re leading a team of one, two, or three thousand, how you lead determines whether you survive or thrive in the workplace. I’m Kathy Andrews, and this is the For Leaders, By Leaders podcast. We’re here for insightful conversations with real leaders, sharing inspiration and practical advice to help you unlock the best in yourself and those around you. When you face those moments where you ask yourself, “What do I do?” or “How can I do better?”, this podcast is here to guide you. With interviews from influential leaders across industries—CEOs, entrepreneurs, authors, and thought leaders—we’ll dive into their personal stories, pivotal moments, and the strategies that led to their success. Each episode explores real-world scenarios, leadership challenges, and offers practical, actionable tools that you can apply immediately. Think of this as a leadership coach in your pocket. Join us on your favorite platform, and take your leadership to the next level.","last_synced_at":"2026-06-04T18:18:09.384159+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/for-leaders-by-leaders-7058839"},"episode":{"title":"On Managing Complexity/ Guest: Shelley Frost, President and CEO, PNE","slug":"on-managing-complexity-guest-shelley-frost-president-and-ceo-pne","published_at":"2025-06-12T07:12:15+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/for-leaders-by-leaders-7058839/on-managing-complexity-guest-shelley-frost-president-and-ceo-pne","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/for-leaders-by-leaders-7058839","url":"https://ForLeadersByLeaders.podbean.com/e/on-managing-complexity-guest-shelley-frost-president-and-ceo-pne/","audio_url":"https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/ck9cw6vnaher8752/FLBL_Shelley_Frost_v39p5t0.mp3","summary":"Shelley Frost, CEO of the Pacific National Exhibition (PNE), joins the show to talk about leading one of BC’s most iconic and complex organizations. From early roles in a psychiatric hospital and juvenile jail to leading in tech and the arts, Shelley’s path has shaped a unique approach to leadership. She shares how managing unpredictability and diverse stakeholders prepared her to run the PNE – home to major events, an amusement park, and key youth employment programs. They discuss balancing legacy with innovation, leading through ambiguity, and building operational excellence. Tune in to this episode as we explore: (03:15) From consulting to finding local purpose (09:04) Aligning vision in complex teams (11:48) Leading with adaptability (15:41) Making decisions with clarity (17:52) A collaborative planning approach (21:29) Communicating with seasonal staff (25:46) Unearthing hidden war relics (27:29) Behind Vancouver’s FIFA fan fest (30:23) Inside the concert and show lineup Connect with Shelley Frost here: LinkedIn Pacific National Exhibition (PNE) PNE Instagram Interested in developing more effective leadership skills? Connect with Cinga today here.","meta_description":"Shelley Frost, CEO of the Pacific National Exhibition (PNE), joins the show to talk about leading one of BC’s most iconic and complex organizations. From…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":1884,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/for-leaders-by-leaders-7058839/episodes/on-managing-complexity-guest-shelley-frost-president-and-ceo-pne/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/for-leaders-by-leaders-7058839/on-managing-complexity-guest-shelley-frost-president-and-ceo-pne.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}