{"podcast":{"title":"For a Better Web","slug":"for-a-better-web-7035190","podcast_index_feed_id":7035190,"rss_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/fa587fdc/podcast/rss","website_url":"https://vivaldi.com","image_url":"https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/staging/podcast_uploaded_nologo/41901039/41901039-1766485566904-2ef0af5b4f47f.jpg","author":"Vivaldi Browser","episode_count":15,"summary":"I'm Bruce, and for over 20 years I've been working to make the web more accessible, private, and open to everyone, not just those using the latest devices or willing to hand over their data to corporations. In this podcast, I chat with people fighting for a better web in their own way: accessibility experts, privacy advocates, developers pushing web standards forward, anti-monopoly voices, and people building alternatives to Big Tech tools. I hope you'll join me in meeting these inspiring individuals and hearing what it actually takes to build a more open, inclusive internet.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-30T00:17:55.873791+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/for-a-better-web-7035190"},"episode":{"title":"The Apple Rule Still Limiting What Web Apps Can Do","slug":"the-apple-rule-still-limiting-what-web-apps-can-do","published_at":"2026-07-29T12:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/for-a-better-web-7035190/the-apple-rule-still-limiting-what-web-apps-can-do","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/for-a-better-web-7035190","url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/forabetterweb/episodes/The-Apple-Rule-Still-Limiting-What-Web-Apps-Can-Do-e3mjvuq","audio_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/fa587fdc/podcast/play/123387290/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-6-27%2F428705298-44100-2-f0054e7cc6a5d.m4a","summary":"This podcast series follows Bruce as he interviews people from across different communities and industries who, in their own way, are fighting for a better web. Bruce's victim this time is Alex Moore, co-founder of Open Web Advocacy. We discuss why web apps still barely work on the iPhone, the rule that forces every browser on iOS to run on Apple's engine and quietly limits what web apps can do, and the five year regulatory fight, spanning the UK, EU, Japan, the US and Australia, to change that. Alex also walks through the moment Apple tried to kill web apps across the EU entirely, and why he thinks Apple's privacy and security arguments don't hold up. Chapters: 00:00 Introducing Alex Moore 01:31 What Open Web Advocacy does 02:49 The founders and volunteers behind OWA 04:31 Apple's attempted EU web app ban09:40 Why Alex took on this fight 10:17 The coffee shop job that started it all 12:28 Tweeting at WebKit and getting ignored 14:08 Turning to regulators instead of Apple 16:18 Every regulator OWA has approached 18:10 Is this just an anti-Apple crusade? 20:54 Why no other OS blocks browsers like iOS 23:35 Why does 10% of phones matter? 26:06 How interoperability makes or breaks apps 28:20 The real cost of Apple's 30% cut 29:55 Is Apple really more secure and private? 38:33 A day in the life of a web advocate 41:42 Are they going to win? 44:11 Closing thoughts and how to get involved Show notes: Open Web Advocacy Alex Moore PWA open letter Apple rule 2.5 (the WebKit restriction) Stuart Langridge Japanese "Smartphone Act" (PDF) WebAPK minting How Russian firms get their apps into App Store despite sanctions "A plastic butter knife to a gunfight" Loupe app Apple says Safari's browser engine sandbox for orders of magnitude more secure than that for nati…","meta_description":"This podcast series follows Bruce as he interviews people from across different communities and industries who, in their own way, are fighting for a bette…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2720,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/for-a-better-web-7035190/episodes/the-apple-rule-still-limiting-what-web-apps-can-do/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/for-a-better-web-7035190/the-apple-rule-still-limiting-what-web-apps-can-do.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}