{"podcast":{"title":"Firewall with Bradley Tusk","slug":"firewall-with-bradley-tusk-7228","podcast_index_feed_id":7228,"rss_url":"https://feeds.captivate.fm/firewall/","website_url":"http://firewall.media","image_url":"https://artwork.captivate.fm/afcf80f3-8e38-470f-9c9a-4ad0e7715aab/kD2dvIHk73sOfvzUVEEQiv29.jpg","author":"Firewall","episode_count":200,"summary":"Politics, technology and the pursuit of happiness. Twice a week, Bradley Tusk, New York-based political strategist and venture investor, covers the collision between new ideas and the real world. His operating thesis is that you can't understand tech today without understanding politics, too. Recorded at P&T Knitwear, his bookstore / podcast studio, 180 Orchard Street, New York City.","last_synced_at":"2026-09-22T10:22:59.617189+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/firewall-with-bradley-tusk-7228"},"episode":{"title":"How Hyperscalers Can Save The World From Themselves","slug":"how-hyperscalers-can-save-the-world-from-themselves","published_at":"2026-09-15T09:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/firewall-with-bradley-tusk-7228/how-hyperscalers-can-save-the-world-from-themselves","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/firewall-with-bradley-tusk-7228","url":"http://firewall.media","audio_url":"https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/46acad07-0444-425f-8692-b5ebab2ddfa4.mp3","summary":"Now that AI risk has jumped from theoretical to totally real and frightening, Bradley lays out a five-point plan for what OpenAI and Anthropic should do if they're serious about safety: disclose everything about how they're developing their products, draw real distinctions between what the technology can do and what people actually need, enact unilateral safety measures like kill switches and independent evaluators, aggressively push for robust regulation and — the big one — postpone their IPOs until the risk is under control. This episode was taped at P&T Knitwear at 180 Orchard Street — New York City’s only free podcast recording studio. Send us an email with your thoughts on today’s episode: info@firewall.media . Subscribe to Bradley's weekly newsletter and follow Bradley on Linkedin + Substack .","meta_description":"Now that AI risk has jumped from theoretical to totally real and frightening, Bradley lays out a five-point plan for what OpenAI and Anthropic should do i…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3949,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/firewall-with-bradley-tusk-7228/episodes/how-hyperscalers-can-save-the-world-from-themselves/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/firewall-with-bradley-tusk-7228/how-hyperscalers-can-save-the-world-from-themselves.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}