{"podcast":{"title":"Eye On A.I.","slug":"eye-on-ai","podcast_index_feed_id":832104,"rss_url":"https://aneyeonai.libsyn.com/rss","website_url":"http://www.eye-on.ai","image_url":"https://static.libsyn.com/p/assets/0/2/1/3/0213c7d9616b570b16c3140a3186d450/LOGO_1400x1400.jpg","author":"Craig S. Smith","episode_count":359,"summary":"Eye on A.I. is a biweekly podcast, hosted by longtime New York Times correspondent Craig S. Smith. In each episode, Craig will talk to people making a difference in artificial intelligence. The podcast aims to put incremental advances into a broader context and consider the global implications of the developing technology. AI is about to change your world, so pay attention.","last_synced_at":"2026-06-30T04:19:30.572988+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/eye-on-ai"},"episode":{"title":"How Modern Science Got Consciousness Wrong From the Start | Philip Goff","slug":"how-modern-science-got-consciousness-wrong-from-the-start-philip-goff","published_at":"2026-06-29T13:46:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/eye-on-ai/how-modern-science-got-consciousness-wrong-from-the-start-philip-goff","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/eye-on-ai","url":"https://aneyeonai.libsyn.com/how-modern-science-got-consciousness-wrong-from-the-start-philip-goff","audio_url":"https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/pscrb.fm/rss/p/pdst.fm/e/arttrk.com/p/VI4CS/prfx.byspotify.com/e/mgln.ai/e/p58841/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.libsyn.com/secure/aneyeonai/CS-359-A_V2.mp3?dest-id=727317","summary":"What if consciousness isn't a byproduct of complex brains, but a fundamental feature of reality itself, present, in some rudimentary form, all the way down to electrons and quarks? Philip Goff, a philosopher at Durham University and one of panpsychism's leading contemporary advocates, joins Craig Smith to make that case, arguing that modern science's founding move - separating the mathematical world physics studies from the subjective experience we know only from the inside - solved one problem while quietly creating another we've never resolved. The conversation inevitably turns to AI: could a large language model ever be conscious? Goff's answer is a careful, well-reasoned no, not because he thinks consciousness is magical, but because his framework treats it as something closer to the physical substance of reality than an abstract computation, making him skeptical that anything resembling current AI architecture could cross that threshold. Along the way, he tackles one of the genuine open mysteries in his field: if natural selection only cares about behavior, why did evolution bother making us conscious at all, and what would it even mean to find experimental evidence for an answer. Subscribe to Eye on A.I. for weekly conversations with the people building and deploying the future of AI.v","meta_description":"What if consciousness isn't a byproduct of complex brains, but a fundamental feature of reality itself, present, in some rudimentary form, all the way dow…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3680,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/eye-on-ai/episodes/how-modern-science-got-consciousness-wrong-from-the-start-philip-goff/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/eye-on-ai/how-modern-science-got-consciousness-wrong-from-the-start-philip-goff.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}