{"podcast":{"title":"Exit Paradox","slug":"exit-paradox-7495448","podcast_index_feed_id":7495448,"rss_url":"https://feeds.transistor.fm/exit-paradox","website_url":"https://www.exitparadox.com/","image_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/H2ZlfWjPFtWfRPxPUwYhaGNZ1qIpZRxIPenHYa35iHg/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:1400/h:1400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS84OGJi/NDlhZDM1YTkzZGRk/M2U0M2VhMGM2ZTY1/M2JlYi5qcGc.jpg","author":"Anastasia Koroleva","episode_count":60,"summary":"I'm Anastasia Koroleva, a 4x exited founder exploring life after selling a business with some of the most remarkable post-exit entrepreneurs in the world. Together, we rediscover purpose, redefine success, master investing, and build fulfilling lives and families. Having survived a 9-digit exit, I dedicated a decade to researching the deepest challenges faced by entrepreneurs after a business sale. This podcast is the platform to share my and other exited founders' hard-earned wisdom with the world. To join our community, please subscribe and share your thoughts. I’d love to hear from you 🙏.","last_synced_at":"2026-09-05T18:20:33.634233+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/exit-paradox-7495448"},"episode":{"title":"From $100M Exit to Fulfilment: Josh Payne’s Playbook","slug":"from-100m-exit-to-fulfilment-josh-payne-s-playbook","published_at":"2025-02-28T19:05:54+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/exit-paradox-7495448/from-100m-exit-to-fulfilment-josh-payne-s-playbook","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/exit-paradox-7495448","url":"https://www.exitparadox.com/podcast/josh-payne","audio_url":"https://media.transistor.fm/94f26f6e/5b9a62d4.mp3","summary":"My guest today, Josh Payne, has developed fascinating insights and systems to do just that. Josh sold his company, Stack Commerce, for nearly $100 million 4 years ago. A huge milestone - but as all exited founders know, the real story starts after the deal is done.Today, he’s building again - but with a completely different approach. Josh isn’t optimizing for another massive exit. He’s after something bigger. So let’s see what we can learn from this fascinating man. 00:00:00 Introduction 00:00:45 Selling StackCommerce: Was It a Happy Moment? 00:02:00 The Emotional Impact of Selling a Company 00:03:30 Why Money Didn’t Solve Everything 00:05:15 Prioritizing Family After the Exit 00:06:30 Leaving the Company: A Tough Identity Shift 00:07:45 Taking a Healing Family Trip 00:09:00 Training for an Ironman & Overcoming Mental Barriers 00:12:30 Decoupling Identity from Business 00:14:00 Leadership & Purpose Beyond Business 00:16:00 Sacrifice vs. Suffering in Entrepreneurship 00:18:45 Ironman Training: Lessons in Overcoming Fear 00:22:00 The Challenge of Finding a New Purpose 00:23:45 Why Start Another Business After an Exit? 00:27:00 Learning to Build a Company Without Fear 00:30:00 The Difference Between First and Second Businesses 00:33:00 Finding a Sustainable Way to Build Again 00:35:00 Balancing Business & Personal Life After Exit 00:38:15 Why Many Second Businesses Fail 00:42:00 The Importance of Motivation in a New Startup 00:45:30 Avoiding the Trap of Losing Interest Midway 00:48:00 The Role of Peer Groups Like Tiger 21 00:50:30 How Long Does It Take to Truly Adjust After Exit? 00:53:00 Raising Kids With Wealth: Teaching Responsibility 00:54:00 Closing Thoughts & Future Plans","meta_description":"My guest today, Josh Payne, has developed fascinating insights and systems to do just that. Josh sold his company, Stack Commerce, for nearly $100 million…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3317,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/exit-paradox-7495448/episodes/from-100m-exit-to-fulfilment-josh-payne-s-playbook/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/exit-paradox-7495448/from-100m-exit-to-fulfilment-josh-payne-s-playbook.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}