{"podcast":{"title":"Exit Paradox","slug":"exit-paradox-7495448","podcast_index_feed_id":7495448,"rss_url":"https://feeds.transistor.fm/exit-paradox","website_url":"https://www.exitparadox.com/","image_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/H2ZlfWjPFtWfRPxPUwYhaGNZ1qIpZRxIPenHYa35iHg/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:1400/h:1400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS84OGJi/NDlhZDM1YTkzZGRk/M2U0M2VhMGM2ZTY1/M2JlYi5qcGc.jpg","author":"Anastasia Koroleva","episode_count":60,"summary":"I'm Anastasia Koroleva, a 4x exited founder exploring life after selling a business with some of the most remarkable post-exit entrepreneurs in the world. Together, we rediscover purpose, redefine success, master investing, and build fulfilling lives and families. Having survived a 9-digit exit, I dedicated a decade to researching the deepest challenges faced by entrepreneurs after a business sale. This podcast is the platform to share my and other exited founders' hard-earned wisdom with the world. To join our community, please subscribe and share your thoughts. I’d love to hear from you 🙏.","last_synced_at":"2026-09-05T18:20:33.634233+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/exit-paradox-7495448"},"episode":{"title":"Daniel Kivatinos Post-Exit: Why I Am Building Again","slug":"daniel-kivatinos-post-exit-why-i-am-building-again","published_at":"2025-11-21T10:33:23+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/exit-paradox-7495448/daniel-kivatinos-post-exit-why-i-am-building-again","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/exit-paradox-7495448","url":"https://www.exitparadox.com/podcast/daniel-kivatinos","audio_url":"https://media.transistor.fm/e634ff97/7f5505af.mp3","summary":"On this podcast we've explored many dramatic post exit stories. Tales of existential crisis, addictions to drugs, alcohol, sex and obsessive money chasing, extreme sports, mind blowing adventures and long spiritual journeys to faraway lands. Daniel Kivatinos journey is different and just as important to hear. His pause after selling his company didn't push him into a new path. It gave him clarity that he was already on the right one. Daniel built and sold DrChrono , one of the first mobile medical platforms processing billions in medical billing. His work even took him to the White House to help shape healthcare data policy. Today, Daniel is building JustPaid, an AI powered platform changing how businesses manage accounts receivable. In our conversation, Daniel shows us how he built that conviction about who he is and what he truly wants to do. In his case, to keep building highly impactful tech companies right in the heart of Silicon Valley. TIME STAMPS: 00:00 – Fulfilment: “Some days I’m a five, some days a six” 00:19 – What would it take to feel like a 10? 00:58 – The illusion of a “perfect place” in life 01:17 – Mountain after mountain: why satisfaction always moves 01:37 – Introducing Daniel Kivatinos & his journey from DrChrono to JustPaid 02:14 – Can a life ever feel fully “satisfied”? 03:11 – Starting the conversation: Daniel joins the show 03:17 – How he discovered the podcast & why it resonated 03:36 – He sold DrChrono… and then started a new company within a year 04:05 – Why founders can’t take long breaks without losing their edge 05:40 – Did one year off give enough space for clarity? (Short answer: no.) 06:21 – Why entrepreneurs struggle with taking real time off 07:57 – The addictive nature of building companies 08:40 – Is the second company easi…","meta_description":"On this podcast we've explored many dramatic post exit stories. Tales of existential crisis, addictions to drugs, alcohol, sex and obsessive money chasing…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3475,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/exit-paradox-7495448/episodes/daniel-kivatinos-post-exit-why-i-am-building-again/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/exit-paradox-7495448/daniel-kivatinos-post-exit-why-i-am-building-again.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}