{"podcast":{"title":"Exit Paradox","slug":"exit-paradox-7495448","podcast_index_feed_id":7495448,"rss_url":"https://feeds.transistor.fm/exit-paradox","website_url":"https://www.exitparadox.com/","image_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/H2ZlfWjPFtWfRPxPUwYhaGNZ1qIpZRxIPenHYa35iHg/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:1400/h:1400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS84OGJi/NDlhZDM1YTkzZGRk/M2U0M2VhMGM2ZTY1/M2JlYi5qcGc.jpg","author":"Anastasia Koroleva","episode_count":60,"summary":"I'm Anastasia Koroleva, a 4x exited founder exploring life after selling a business with some of the most remarkable post-exit entrepreneurs in the world. Together, we rediscover purpose, redefine success, master investing, and build fulfilling lives and families. Having survived a 9-digit exit, I dedicated a decade to researching the deepest challenges faced by entrepreneurs after a business sale. This podcast is the platform to share my and other exited founders' hard-earned wisdom with the world. To join our community, please subscribe and share your thoughts. I’d love to hear from you 🙏.","last_synced_at":"2026-09-05T18:20:33.634233+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/exit-paradox-7495448"},"episode":{"title":"$800M Exit: “Shoveling Shit” in Business and Marriage","slug":"800m-exit-shoveling-shit-in-business-and-marriage","published_at":"2025-03-04T09:38:44+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/exit-paradox-7495448/800m-exit-shoveling-shit-in-business-and-marriage","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/exit-paradox-7495448","url":"https://www.exitparadox.com/podcast/kass-and-michael-lazerow","audio_url":"https://media.transistor.fm/1e5f50f3/8326fac4.mp3","summary":"VCs notoriously avoid investing in married couples, fearing that personal conflicts could sink the business. Yet, the Lazerows defied that norm—building not just one, but two successful companies together, culminating in an $800M exit. They didn’t just make it work; they mastered it—and then wrote a book about it. Today, we’ll dive deep into what exactly they did to make it work—and what they wish they hadn’t. TIME STAMPS: 00:00:01 - Introduction 00:00:14 - Learning from Failure vs. Success 00:00:27 - Building a Business as a Married Couple 00:01:08 - First Meeting and Early Impressions 00:02:30 - Life After an Exit 00:03:08 - Golf.com: The First Big Exit 00:06:58 - The Struggles of Entrepreneurship 00:09:14 - The Emotional Toll of Entrepreneurship 00:10:35 - Taking a Break After an Exit 00:11:14 - Was Their First Exit Life-Changing? 00:12:54 - Why Start Another Business? 00:14:31 - Entrepreneurship with Three Kids 00:16:47 - Why Entrepreneurs Keep Going 00:19:41 - Becoming Investors 00:23:20 - The Hardships Behind Entrepreneurship 00:28:17 - Coping with Post-Exit Stress 00:31:41 - Entrepreneurs and Mental Health 00:34:55 - Reframing Anxiety & ADHD as Superpowers 00:38:46 - The Dark Side of Entrepreneurship 00:44:01 - Work-Life Balance: Do They Have One? 00:48:01 - Michael’s Attempt at a Painting Career 00:50:12 - Filtering Opportunities 00:52:28 - Navigating Marriage After an Exit 00:55:15 - Raising Kids with Wealth 01:02:11 - Teaching Kids About Money and Responsibility 01:09:04 - The Purpose of Their Book 01:11:20 - Final Question: How Do You Want to Be Remembered? 🔗 CONNECT WITH KASS AND MIKE: 👥 Linkedin KASS - https://www.linkedin.com/in/kasslazerow/ 🐦 X (Twitter) KASS - https://x.com/kasslazerow 👥 Linkedin MIKE - https://www.linkedin.com/in/lazerow/ 🐦 X (Twit…","meta_description":"VCs notoriously avoid investing in married couples, fearing that personal conflicts could sink the business. Yet, the Lazerows defied that norm—building n…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":4354,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/exit-paradox-7495448/episodes/800m-exit-shoveling-shit-in-business-and-marriage/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/exit-paradox-7495448/800m-exit-shoveling-shit-in-business-and-marriage.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}