{"podcast":{"title":"Excess Returns","slug":"excess-returns-902655","podcast_index_feed_id":902655,"rss_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/9a1dfac/podcast/rss","website_url":"https://excessreturnspod.com","image_url":"https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/staging/podcast_uploaded_nologo/1516035/1516035-1743436234284-87994a171a4a2.jpg","author":"Excess Returns","episode_count":560,"summary":"Excess Returns is dedicated to making you a better long-term investor and making complex investing topics understandable. Join Jack Forehand, Justin Carbonneau and Matt Zeigler as they sit down with some of the most interesting names in finance to discuss topics like macroeconomics, value investing, factor investing, and more. Subscribe to learn along with us.","last_synced_at":"2026-09-13T06:18:13.262156+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/excess-returns-902655"},"episode":{"title":"The Warren Buffett Portfolio: Robert Hagstrom on What Wall Street Gets Wrong About Risk","slug":"the-warren-buffett-portfolio-robert-hagstrom-on-what-wall-street-gets-wrong-about-risk","published_at":"2026-07-28T11:11:57+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/excess-returns-902655/the-warren-buffett-portfolio-robert-hagstrom-on-what-wall-street-gets-wrong-about-risk","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/excess-returns-902655","url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/excess-returns/episodes/The-Warren-Buffett-Portfolio-Robert-Hagstrom-on-What-Wall-Street-Gets-Wrong-About-Risk-e3ml5ib","audio_url":"https://traffic.megaphone.fm/APO3721456051.mp3","summary":"On the latest 100 Year Thinkers, Robert Hagstrom joins Matt Zeigler and Bogumil Baranowski to revisit the 25th anniversary edition of The Warren Buffett Portfolio and explain why volatility is not the same as investment risk. They discuss concentrated portfolios, active share, business valuation, behavioral finance, complex adaptive systems, and Warren Buffett’s warning that the market’s casino can overwhelm its cathedral. The Warren Buffett Portfolio – 25th Anniversary Edition https://amzn.to/3TVXoru Robert Hagstrom on X https://x.com/RobertGHagstrom Equity Compass https://www.equitycompass.com/ Topics covered Why Markowitz’s definition of risk as variance shaped modern portfolio theory Why Buffett views permanent capital loss, not volatility, as the real investing risk What Hagstrom’s study of 3,000 portfolios revealed about concentration and market outperformance The difference between know-something investors and investors better served by indexing How benchmark awareness creates closet indexers and weakens active management What loss aversion and prospect theory explain about investor behavior Why Darwin, William James, and complex adaptive systems offer better models for markets Buffett’s cathedral and casino metaphor for business ownership versus speculation The El Farol problem, Jim Simons, and why successful market models stop working Why options trading, leveraged ETFs, and record single-stock dispersion may be strengthening the casino How to evaluate portfolios using cash flow, return on invested capital, and look-through earnings Why permanent capital and System 2 thinking are essential for focused investing Timestamps 00:00 Intro 04:00 Why Markowitz defined risk as variance 11:47 What 3,000 portfolios revealed about concentration 17:17 Know-something versu…","meta_description":"On the latest 100 Year Thinkers, Robert Hagstrom joins Matt Zeigler and Bogumil Baranowski to revisit the 25th anniversary edition of The Warren Buffett P…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":4065,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/excess-returns-902655/episodes/the-warren-buffett-portfolio-robert-hagstrom-on-what-wall-street-gets-wrong-about-risk/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/excess-returns-902655/the-warren-buffett-portfolio-robert-hagstrom-on-what-wall-street-gets-wrong-about-risk.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}