{"podcast":{"title":"Excess Returns","slug":"excess-returns-902655","podcast_index_feed_id":902655,"rss_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/9a1dfac/podcast/rss","website_url":"https://excessreturnspod.com","image_url":"https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/staging/podcast_uploaded_nologo/1516035/1516035-1743436234284-87994a171a4a2.jpg","author":"Excess Returns","episode_count":560,"summary":"Excess Returns is dedicated to making you a better long-term investor and making complex investing topics understandable. Join Jack Forehand, Justin Carbonneau and Matt Zeigler as they sit down with some of the most interesting names in finance to discuss topics like macroeconomics, value investing, factor investing, and more. Subscribe to learn along with us.","last_synced_at":"2026-09-13T06:18:13.262156+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/excess-returns-902655"},"episode":{"title":"Private Equity Chased Software. Big Tech Is Chasing AI. Dan Rasmussen on If They Are Making the Same Mistake Twice","slug":"private-equity-chased-software-big-tech-is-chasing-ai-dan-rasmussen-on-if-they-are-making-the-same-mistake-twice","published_at":"2026-08-28T01:07:25+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/excess-returns-902655/private-equity-chased-software-big-tech-is-chasing-ai-dan-rasmussen-on-if-they-are-making-the-same-mistake-twice","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/excess-returns-902655","url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/excess-returns/episodes/Private-Equity-Chased-Software--Big-Tech-Is-Chasing-AI--Dan-Rasmussen-on-If-They-Are-Making-the-Same-Mistake-Twice-e3o0a33","audio_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/9a1dfac/podcast/play/124839459/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-7-28%2F430686435-44100-2-8be055ed40549.mp3","summary":"Dan Rasmussen, founder and managing partner of Verdad Advisers and author of The Humble Investor, joins Kai Wu to examine the unraveling of private equity, the rise of private credit, and how AI is reshaping software, labor, and the economics of technology investing. They also explore the massive AI CapEx boom, why value investing has struggled in the intangible-heavy U.S. market, the unusual opportunity in Japanese small caps, and how investors can quantify intangible value in biotech. Subscribe on Spotify⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠Subscribe on Apple Topics covered: Why private equity became a consensus trade and why exits are now clogged How leverage and high debt costs threaten private equity returns What publicly traded private equity funds reveal about true volatility and NAV discounts How private equity shifted from old-economy buyouts into software and healthcare technology Why AI may have erased code as a software moat while strengthening other intangible advantages How ARR lending helped private credit finance software buyouts and created an obsolescence mismatch What AI is doing to hiring, junior roles, productivity and the composition of work Why the AI CapEx boom may be a crowded, path-dependent overinvestment cycle Why traditional value metrics work better in Japan than in the intangible-heavy U.S. How Tokyo Stock Exchange reforms, buybacks and dividends can unlock value in Japanese small caps How R&D spend, specialist ownership and short interest can help quantify biotech value Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 04:03 Why private equity's debt burden changes the equity math 09:24 How private equity became a software momentum trade 13:29 Why code may no longer be a durable software moat 17:48 How private credit enabled software buyouts through ARR lending 23:56 AI productivity, jobs…","meta_description":"Dan Rasmussen, founder and managing partner of Verdad Advisers and author of The Humble Investor, joins Kai Wu to examine the unraveling of private equity…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3438,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/excess-returns-902655/episodes/private-equity-chased-software-big-tech-is-chasing-ai-dan-rasmussen-on-if-they-are-making-the-same-mistake-twice/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/excess-returns-902655/private-equity-chased-software-big-tech-is-chasing-ai-dan-rasmussen-on-if-they-are-making-the-same-mistake-twice.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}