{"podcast":{"title":"Excess Returns","slug":"excess-returns-902655","podcast_index_feed_id":902655,"rss_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/9a1dfac/podcast/rss","website_url":"https://excessreturnspod.com","image_url":"https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/staging/podcast_uploaded_nologo/1516035/1516035-1743436234284-87994a171a4a2.jpg","author":"Excess Returns","episode_count":538,"summary":"Excess Returns is dedicated to making you a better long-term investor and making complex investing topics understandable. Join Jack Forehand, Justin Carbonneau and Matt Zeigler as they sit down with some of the most interesting names in finance to discuss topics like macroeconomics, value investing, factor investing, and more. Subscribe to learn along with us.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-24T02:20:13.514542+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/excess-returns-902655"},"episode":{"title":"He Quantified 200 Years of Disruption | Kai Wu on Separating Software Survivors from Value Traps","slug":"he-quantified-200-years-of-disruption-kai-wu-on-separating-software-survivors-from-value-traps","published_at":"2026-06-02T16:26:10+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/excess-returns-902655/he-quantified-200-years-of-disruption-kai-wu-on-separating-software-survivors-from-value-traps","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/excess-returns-902655","url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/excess-returns/episodes/He-Quantified-200-Years-of-Disruption--Kai-Wu-on-Separating-Software-Survivors-from-Value-Traps-e3k85uo","audio_url":"https://traffic.megaphone.fm/APO7900870700.mp3","summary":"Kai Wu of Sparkline Capital joins Excess Returns to break down his latest research on AI disruption, software stocks, value traps, and intangible moats. We discuss why software valuations have collapsed, why traditional value investing can fail during technological disruption, and how investors can separate potential AI winners from companies whose business models may be permanently impaired. AI Disruption: Moats and Value Traps https://www.sparklinecapital.com/post/ai-disruption Kai Wu on X https://x.com/ckaiwu Sparkline Capital https://www.sparklinecapital.com/ Topics Covered: Why software stocks are trading at a historically unusual discount to the market How AI disruption can create both real opportunities and dangerous value traps Why Blockbuster, Borders, RadioShack and newspapers offer lessons for today’s software selloff How patent data and natural language processing can measure technological disruption Why disruption has helped explain the poor performance of traditional value investing Why value investing may still work in sectors insulated from technological change How intangible assets like brand, human capital, intellectual property and network effects can protect companies Why Walmart and The New York Times survived disruption while other incumbents did not How David Teece’s complementary assets framework applies to AI, software and moats Why AI adoption and intangible value together may help identify software survivors Why high dispersion in disruption-scare stocks creates a potential opportunity for stock pickers Timestamps: 00:00 Software stocks now trade at a historic discount 04:26 What makes a cheap stock a value trap 08:25 Measuring disruption using patents, filings and natural language processing 13:23 Is AI the biggest disruptive wave in history…","meta_description":"Kai Wu of Sparkline Capital joins Excess Returns to break down his latest research on AI disruption, software stocks, value traps, and intangible moats. W…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3836,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/excess-returns-902655/episodes/he-quantified-200-years-of-disruption-kai-wu-on-separating-software-survivors-from-value-traps/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/excess-returns-902655/he-quantified-200-years-of-disruption-kai-wu-on-separating-software-survivors-from-value-traps.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}