{"podcast":{"title":"Epicenter - Learn about Crypto, Blockchain, Ethereum, Bitcoin and Distributed Technologies","slug":"epicenter-learn-about-crypto-blockchain-ethereum-bitcoin-and-distributed-technologies-918755","podcast_index_feed_id":918755,"rss_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/10901e500/podcast/rss","website_url":"https://epicenter.tv","image_url":"https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/staging/podcast_uploaded_nologo/44360864/0371a674fc039595.jpg","author":"Epicenter Media Ltd.","episode_count":671,"summary":"Epicenter brings you in-depth conversations about the technical, economic and social implications of cryptocurrencies and blockchain technologies. Every week, we interview business leaders, engineers academics and entrepreneurs, and bring you a diverse spectrum of opinions and points of view. Epicenter is hosted by Sebastien Couture, Brian Fabian Crain, Friederike Ernst, Meher Roy and Felix Lutsch. Since 2014, our episodes have been downloaded over 8 million times.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-03T20:19:20.862625+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/epicenter-learn-about-crypto-blockchain-ethereum-bitcoin-and-distributed-technologies-918755"},"episode":{"title":"What will Quantum Computing Change?","slug":"what-will-quantum-computing-change","published_at":"2025-12-03T21:12:15+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/epicenter-learn-about-crypto-blockchain-ethereum-bitcoin-and-distributed-technologies-918755/what-will-quantum-computing-change","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/epicenter-learn-about-crypto-blockchain-ethereum-bitcoin-and-distributed-technologies-918755","url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/epicenterpodcast/episodes/What-will-Quantum-Computing-Change-e3brdmb","audio_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/10901e500/podcast/play/112096395/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-11-3%2F413693836-44100-2-365a6b37edd3a.mp3","summary":"Quantum computing is often dismissed as a distant sci-fi future, but Ethereum OG John Lilic and Oxford physicist Stefano Gogioso argue the timeline is shrinking fast with roadmaps converging around 2030 . In this episode, they break down the "woeful" state of quantum readiness in crypto, explaining how Shor's algorithm could eventually shatter the elliptic curve cryptography protecting Bitcoin and Ethereum. They also explore the terrifying concept of "harvest now, decrypt later," which implies that encrypted data and privacy coins like Monero may essentially be compromised already. Finally, they introduce "Quantum Money," a revolutionary form of digital cash developed by Stefano’s startup NeverLocal , which relies on the laws of physics rather than blockchain consensus to prevent double-spending. Topics 00:00 Intro 03:00 John’s Quantum Awakening 08:00 Defining Quantum Computing 13:30 Logical Qubits Explained 18:15 Crypto’s "Woeful" Readiness 23:30 "Harvest Now" Threat 28:45 Monero’s Privacy Risk 33:15 What is Quantum Money? 40:00 Investment & Hedging Links John Lilic on X: https://x.com/LilicJohn Stefano Gogioso on X: https://x.com/StefanoGogioso NeverLocal: https://neverlocal.com Quantum.info: https://quantum.info Gnosis: https://gnosis.io/ Sponsors: Gnosis: Gnosis has been building core decentralized infrastructure for the Ethereum ecosystem since 2015. With the launch of Gnosis Pay last year, we introduced the world's first Decentralized Payment Network. Start leveraging its power today at http://gnosis.io","meta_description":"Quantum computing is often dismissed as a distant sci-fi future, but Ethereum OG John Lilic and Oxford physicist Stefano Gogioso argue the timeline is shr…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":4901,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/epicenter-learn-about-crypto-blockchain-ethereum-bitcoin-and-distributed-technologies-918755/episodes/what-will-quantum-computing-change/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/epicenter-learn-about-crypto-blockchain-ethereum-bitcoin-and-distributed-technologies-918755/what-will-quantum-computing-change.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}