{"podcast":{"title":"Elixir Wizards","slug":"elixir-wizards","podcast_index_feed_id":674321,"rss_url":"https://feeds.fireside.fm/smartlogic/rss","website_url":"https://smartlogic.fireside.fm","image_url":"https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/0/03a50f66-dc5e-4da4-ab6e-31895b6d4c9e/cover.jpg?v=3","author":"SmartLogic LLC","episode_count":201,"summary":"Elixir Wizards is an interview-style podcast from SmartLogic featuring conversations with developers, engineers, and industry leaders about the Elixir programming language and the broader software development landscape. Each episode explores how modern systems are built, from distributed architectures and infrastructure to developer workflows, security, and emerging technologies like AI. While rooted in the Elixir ecosystem, the show often branches out to compare approaches across languages, platforms, and disciplines. 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