{"podcast":{"title":"DTC Podcast","slug":"dtc-podcast-715179","podcast_index_feed_id":715179,"rss_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/205a6c00/podcast/rss","website_url":"https://directtoconsumer.co","image_url":"https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/staging/podcast_uploaded_nologo/5327968/5327968-1738356943979-564f24d8acbe9.jpg","author":"DTC Newsletter and Podcast","episode_count":743,"summary":"Weekly discussions between disruptive direct to consumer ecommerce brands and our amazing team about marketing, funnels, and everything scaling related. Subscribe to our newsletter for highlights and step by step tactical insights 👉🏻 📦 directtoconsumer.co","last_synced_at":"2026-06-06T00:18:00.882905+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/dtc-podcast-715179"},"episode":{"title":"Ep 602: How Bobbie Won 91% of the Conversation With 4% Market Share | Building the Brand","slug":"ep-602-how-bobbie-won-91-of-the-conversation-with-4-market-share-building-the-brand","published_at":"2026-04-13T11:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/dtc-podcast-715179/ep-602-how-bobbie-won-91-of-the-conversation-with-4-market-share-building-the-brand","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/dtc-podcast-715179","url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/dtcpodcast/episodes/Ep-602-How-Bobbie-Won-91-of-the-Conversation-With-4-Market-Share--Building-the-Brand-e3hno91","audio_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/205a6c00/podcast/play/118267617/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-3-10%2F421821309-44100-2-378ff03fbfcf3.mp3","summary":"Subscribe to DTC Newsletter - https://dtcnews.link/signup Kim Chappell is Chief Brand Officer at Bobbie, the mom-founded infant formula brand that’s crossed $100M in revenue and is trying to change how formula gets talked about in America. In this episode, she breaks down how Bobbie built a brand parents are proud to buy in a category that used to be driven by guilt, and why trust beats sheer creative volume when the old Meta scale-button playbook stops working. For DTC founders, CMOs, and performance marketers scaling a trust-heavy product in a crowded category. Inside the episode: Why Bobbie treated infant formula as a culture problem, not just a product problem How the team thinks about brand vs performance now that the old Meta-only growth playbook has weakened What “learn more” looks like when your customer journey is messy, delayed, and omnichannel How Bobbie chooses the few advocacy lanes it can credibly own, then actually follows through Why the Cardi B partnership worked, and how it turned celebrity into conversation share, trust, and policy momentum Who this is for: Operators building in regulated, trust-sensitive, or education-heavy categories where brand has to do real work before performance can convert. What to steal: Put performance, organic, creator, and lifecycle under one brand story Treat education as part of conversion, not a nice-to-have Pick fewer cultural or political lanes, but show up with receipts when you enter them Timestamps 00:00 Performance marketing has changed 03:00 Building Bobbie from scratch 06:00 Removing the stigma around formula 08:00 Why Bobbie understood the customer 10:00 Transparency as brand strategy 12:00 Brand vs performance 15:00 The omnichannel customer journey 18:00 Choosing the right advocacy lanes 21:00 Community-led b…","meta_description":"Subscribe to DTC Newsletter - https://dtcnews.link/signup Kim Chappell is Chief Brand Officer at Bobbie, the mom-founded infant formula brand that’s cross…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2219,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/dtc-podcast-715179/episodes/ep-602-how-bobbie-won-91-of-the-conversation-with-4-market-share-building-the-brand/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/dtc-podcast-715179/ep-602-how-bobbie-won-91-of-the-conversation-with-4-market-share-building-the-brand.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}