{"podcast":{"title":"Driven by Data: The Podcast","slug":"driven-by-data-the-podcast-1318403","podcast_index_feed_id":1318403,"rss_url":"https://feeds.captivate.fm/driven-by-data-the-podcast/","website_url":"https://driven-by-data-the-podcast.captivate.fm","image_url":"https://artwork.captivate.fm/841332bb-a067-4ec9-8cca-fa44299411de/cGy813h_N70ArSNWpGbK4-Qq.jpg","author":"Orbition Group","episode_count":200,"summary":"Orbition Group is delighted to bring you this podcast series, which is designed for Data Enthusiasts, to hear from some of the most high-profile Data, Analytics and AI thought leaders from around the globe. Each episode will detail the guests journey to the top while bringing unique insights, drawn from first-hand experience on the industry’s most trending topics. This podcast was created as a way for our industry's most respected leadership figures from across the world to give back to the Data & Analytics community, by sharing; knowledge, experiences and ideas, to inspire, innovate and provide real-life use cases on the industries most pressing topics/challenges.","last_synced_at":null,"page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/driven-by-data-the-podcast-1318403"},"episode":{"title":"Data Debrief: Trad AI, Gen AI, and the Fight for Relevance","slug":"data-debrief-trad-ai-gen-ai-and-the-fight-for-relevance","published_at":"2026-04-23T05:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/driven-by-data-the-podcast-1318403/data-debrief-trad-ai-gen-ai-and-the-fight-for-relevance","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/driven-by-data-the-podcast-1318403","url":"https://driven-by-data-the-podcast.captivate.fm/episode/data-debrief-trad-ai-gen-ai-and-the-fight-for-relevance","audio_url":"https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/b82df971-bca6-4af5-acc7-655b82dc4ab4.mp3","summary":"Welcome to another episode of Data Debrief, the companion show to Driven By Data: The Podcast, where hosts Catherine Dowden-King and Kyle Winterbottom sit down to unpack Tuesday’s conversation, share what’s been on their minds, and explore what’s really happening across the data and AI landscape. Fresh off Kyle’s return from holiday, the pair dive into Tuesday’s episode with Daragh Kelly, Chief Data Officer at The Economist, unpacking the ideas that stood out most, and a few that challenge the dominant narratives in the market right now. They cover: Why the concept of “Trad AI” (traditional machine learning and data science) is a useful lens, and how the market is blurring the lines between legacy AI and the new wave of generative and agentic capabilities The ongoing hype cycle in AI, why it’s nothing new, and how organisations risk getting distracted by buzzwords rather than focusing on real outcomes The growing gap between building AI solutions and making them scalable, reusable, and commercially viable The importance of defining what “AI” actually means inside your organisation, and why vague language is creating confusion at the board level The tension between speed and direction, and why moving fast means nothing if you’re not solving problems that actually matter Whether operating models really need to change for AI, and why Dara’s perspective challenges the prevailing narrative The shift from analysts as insight generators to “toolmakers”, and what that means for the future of data and analytics roles The rise of self-serve capability across organisations, and the risks of uncontrolled experimentation without governance The ongoing power struggle between CDOs, CIOs, and CTOs over AI ownership, and why the answer is far from settled The role of optics, titles, an…","meta_description":"Welcome to another episode of Data Debrief, the companion show to Driven By Data: The Podcast, where hosts Catherine Dowden-King and Kyle Winterbottom sit…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":1917,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/driven-by-data-the-podcast-1318403/episodes/data-debrief-trad-ai-gen-ai-and-the-fight-for-relevance/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/driven-by-data-the-podcast-1318403/data-debrief-trad-ai-gen-ai-and-the-fight-for-relevance.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}