{"podcast":{"title":"Dream Life Club","slug":"dream-life-club-6959250","podcast_index_feed_id":6959250,"rss_url":"https://feeds.captivate.fm/dreamlifeclubpodcast/","website_url":"https://dreamlifeclubpodcast.captivate.fm","image_url":"https://artwork.captivate.fm/205b279f-2b17-49a8-b6f0-1878b6f11c3f/Pj2jWOoeBhCpBWsqC__gjrRI.jpg","author":"Sumi Krishnan","episode_count":36,"summary":"Dream Life Club is the show for creatives and entrepreneurs committed to chasing and living out their dreams. Through interviews as well as solo-episodes, the show offers insights and inspiration to anyone looking to build their dream life. About the host: Sumi Krishnan is an award-winning entrepreneur who walked away from the 200 person consulting firm she started while in college to chase her lifelong dream of being a music artist. She has been featured in media from Forbes to Inc. Magazine and is transforming the definition of what it means to be a pop music artist today.","last_synced_at":null,"page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/dream-life-club-6959250"},"episode":{"title":"Never Sell Out: Dan Smalls on Building Something Real in the Music Industry","slug":"never-sell-out-dan-smalls-on-building-something-real-in-the-music-industry","published_at":"2026-05-08T17:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/dream-life-club-6959250/never-sell-out-dan-smalls-on-building-something-real-in-the-music-industry","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/dream-life-club-6959250","url":"https://dreamlifeclubpodcast.captivate.fm","audio_url":"https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/556c9bd0-b917-4dc9-b7c8-7c72b9dc4774.mp3","summary":"Dan Smalls is one of the most respected independent concert promoters in the country. With over 35 years experience, he built DSP (Dan Smalls Presents) from a single 1,600 seat theater in Ithaca, NY into a company doing 800+ shows a year across the Northeast. He's worked with legendary artists Pearl Jam, Phish & Blues Traveler, produced Phish’s epic end-of-summer festivals that drew up to 100,000 people and runs the Green River Festival in Massachusetts, happening in June. He did it all while staying fiercely independent. In this conversation, Dan shares his full origin story, from booking Blues Traveler at Cornell frat parties to getting hand-picked by the legendary Bill Graham, to nearly walking away from music entirely before finding his way back. We get into what it really takes to be an independent promoter, how he thinks about risk and what artists at any level can learn about building a career on their own terms.","meta_description":"Dan Smalls is one of the most respected independent concert promoters in the country. With over 35 years experience, he built DSP (Dan Smalls Presents) fr…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3643,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/dream-life-club-6959250/episodes/never-sell-out-dan-smalls-on-building-something-real-in-the-music-industry/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/dream-life-club-6959250/never-sell-out-dan-smalls-on-building-something-real-in-the-music-industry.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}