{"podcast":{"title":"Double Loop Podcast","slug":"double-loop-podcast-169275","podcast_index_feed_id":169275,"rss_url":"http://feeds.feedburner.com/DoubleLoopPodcast","website_url":"http://doublelooppodcast.com/","image_url":"https://i1.sndcdn.com/avatars-000713212102-gm10lg-original.jpg","author":"Glenn Langenburg and Eric Ray (eric@rayforensics.com)","episode_count":160,"summary":"Glenn Langenburg and Eric Ray discuss latent prints, the latest latent print research, forensic science in general, and regular interviews with people in the latent print field.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-17T10:19:29.602815+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/double-loop-podcast-169275"},"episode":{"title":"Episode 291 - Mundane Obstacles to Developing a Stats Model","slug":"episode-291-mundane-obstacles-to-developing-a-stats-model","published_at":"2026-05-04T06:15:37+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/double-loop-podcast-169275/episode-291-mundane-obstacles-to-developing-a-stats-model","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/double-loop-podcast-169275","url":"https://soundcloud.com/double-loop-podcast/episode-291-mundane-obstacles","audio_url":"https://feeds.soundcloud.com/stream/2314155191-double-loop-podcast-episode-291-mundane-obstacles.mp3","summary":"Eric and Glenn start the episode with a listener email and then play a numbers themed game of Regional Quirkisms. For the topic of this episode, the guys discuss a 2025 paper from Simon Cole and Justin Sola titled \"First impressions matter: Mundane obstacles to a forensic device for probabilistic reporting in fingerprint analysis\". The article discusses practical and realistic obstacles and hurdles to developing a validated, accepted, and commercially-available statistical model for fingerprint evidence. The article takes the novel view that most sources cite either \"practitioner disinterest\" (or worse: practitioner rejection) or lack of push and influence from the Courts, Daubert challenges, or Authoritative bodies. However, once you remove those two obstacles and assume examiner 'buy-in' and Courts pushing for empirical data over subjective examiner expertise, what 'mundane' obstacles exist that most people don't realize or think about? The article discusses a number of surprising, non-trivial obstacles that have a huge influence on the state of statistical model development in the field today. Article: Cole, S.A.; Sola, J.L. First impressions matter: Mundane obstacles to a forensic device for probabilistic reporting in fingerprint analysis. Social Studies of Science (2025), 55(5): 683-710. https://doi.org/10.1177/03063127251333074","meta_description":"Eric and Glenn start the episode with a listener email and then play a numbers themed game of Regional Quirkisms. For the topic of this episode, the guys…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":5181,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/double-loop-podcast-169275/episodes/episode-291-mundane-obstacles-to-developing-a-stats-model/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/double-loop-podcast-169275/episode-291-mundane-obstacles-to-developing-a-stats-model.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}