{"podcast":{"title":"Doom Debates!","slug":"doom-debates-6934136","podcast_index_feed_id":6934136,"rss_url":"https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/1777870.rss","website_url":"https://lironshapira.substack.com/podcast","image_url":"https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/1777870/10d5e21d47152740410de1f6441ce8bb.jpg","author":"Liron Shapira","episode_count":177,"summary":"AI debates that must be resolved before the world ends","last_synced_at":"2026-07-30T10:18:31.431328+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/doom-debates-6934136"},"episode":{"title":"Who Was Liron Shapira BEFORE Doom Debates? — Interview on Theo Jaffee's Podcast from December 2023","slug":"who-was-liron-shapira-before-doom-debates-interview-on-theo-jaffee-s-podcast-from-december-2023","published_at":"2026-05-14T17:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/doom-debates-6934136/who-was-liron-shapira-before-doom-debates-interview-on-theo-jaffee-s-podcast-from-december-2023","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/doom-debates-6934136","url":"https://lironshapira.substack.com/p/who-was-liron-shapira-before-doom","audio_url":"https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/197603602/b3934aa013f2d1a1153c3c897f4415f0.mp3","summary":"In December 2023, I joined the Theo Jaffee Podcast to talk about a wide range of topics including non-AI x-risks, where I disagree with Eliezer Yudkwowsky, cryptocurrency and if P(Doom) is rigorous. This episode was recorded 6 months before I'd started Doom Debates. Let's look back with the power of hindsight and see if my answers still hold up. Links #10: Liron Shapira — AI doom, FOOM, rationalism, and crypto (YouTube) — https://youtu.be/YfEcAtHExFM Watch Theo Jafee now on MTS — https://www.mts.now/ MTS Live — https://x.com/MTSlive Timestamps 00:00:00 — Theo's Introduction 00:01:03 — Is Liron Worried About Non-AI Existential Risks 00:03:36 — Suffering Risks 00:05:22 — Is P(Doom) rigorous? 00:09:42 — Is Eliezer Overestimating P(Doom)? 00:12:18 — Where Does Liron Disagree with Eliezer? 00:15:43 — What Would Change Liron's Mind 00:17:14 — Elon Musk's AI Timelines 00:18:34 — Is xAI Making Things Worse? 00:20:24 — The Case for an AI Manhattan Project 00:22:32 — Are Superforecasters Wrong About AI Risk? 00:26:02 — The Race Against Time for Alignment 00:28:01 — Headroom Above Human Intelligence 00:33:31 — Vitalik's d/acc Framework 00:35:23 — Edging Toward Superintelligence 00:38:21 — From Chatbot to World-Ender 00:41:55 — GPT Paradigm vs. AlphaZero 00:43:18 — Critiquing AI Optimism 00:48:29 — Deceptive Alignment and Gradient Descent 00:53:31 — Does Nice Training Data Make Nice AI? 00:57:57 — How Do You Live with 50% P(Doom)? 01:00:08 — Why Have Kids If the World Might End?01:02:16 — Israel vs Hamas 01:06:15 — How LessWrong Changed Liron's Lif e01:08:42 — Rationalism and Effective Altruism 01:14:49 — Why Blockchain Has No Use Case Beyond Cryptocurrency 01:22:13 — Charlie Munger and Richard Feynman 01:24:38 — Closing Doom Debates’ Mission is to raise mainstream awareness of im…","meta_description":"In December 2023, I joined the Theo Jaffee Podcast to talk about a wide range of topics including non-AI x-risks, where I disagree with Eliezer Yudkwowsky…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":5119,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/doom-debates-6934136/episodes/who-was-liron-shapira-before-doom-debates-interview-on-theo-jaffee-s-podcast-from-december-2023/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/doom-debates-6934136/who-was-liron-shapira-before-doom-debates-interview-on-theo-jaffee-s-podcast-from-december-2023.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}