{"podcast":{"title":"Doom Debates!","slug":"doom-debates-6934136","podcast_index_feed_id":6934136,"rss_url":"https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/1777870.rss","website_url":"https://lironshapira.substack.com/podcast","image_url":"https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/1777870/10d5e21d47152740410de1f6441ce8bb.jpg","author":"Liron Shapira","episode_count":177,"summary":"AI debates that must be resolved before the world ends","last_synced_at":"2026-07-30T10:18:31.431328+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/doom-debates-6934136"},"episode":{"title":"Live Q&A: Bernie Sanders Wakes Up to AI Doom, Dwarkesh's $20,000 Questions, Caller Debates the Alignment Problem!","slug":"live-q-a-bernie-sanders-wakes-up-to-ai-doom-dwarkesh-s-20-000-questions-caller-debates-the-alignment-problem","published_at":"2026-04-28T18:30:32+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/doom-debates-6934136/live-q-a-bernie-sanders-wakes-up-to-ai-doom-dwarkesh-s-20-000-questions-caller-debates-the-alignment-problem","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/doom-debates-6934136","url":"https://lironshapira.substack.com/p/bernie-sanders-goes-doomer-dwarkeshs","audio_url":"https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/195771619/dc85063382cb00c39d83cb672216d934.mp3","summary":"Multiple live callers join this month's Q&A as I react to Dwarkesh Patel's $20K blog prize, debate the orthogonality thesis from first principles, and welcome Bernie Sanders aboard the Doom Train. Timestamps 00:00:00 — Cold Open 00:01:00 — Welcome to Doom Debates Live! 00:01:30 — What Do You Think of Open Source Models Out-Benchmarking OpenAI and Anthropic? 00:04:55 — Michael Cheers Joins: What If We Don't Give AIs Full Situational Awareness? 00:11:55 — Thoughts on Mythos' Hacking Abilities? 00:15:43 — Liron Reacts to Dwarkesh Patel's $20K AI Questions 00:23:28 — Pretraining Goals vs RL Training Goals 00:28:58 — Mental Model of Yudkowsky-ians & the IABIED Claim 00:37:24 — You Can't Hide Reality from a Superintelligence (The Truman Show Analogy) 00:42:57 — Back to Dwarkesh's Questions: When Do AI Labs Start Making Money? 00:48:50 — Upcoming Guests Reveal! 00:51:35 — Will Lancer Joins: Is The Yudkowskian Thesis Credible? 01:27:03 — Back to Answering Questions from the Chat 01:33:28 — The Cameraman Always Survives Analogy 01:40:52 — Liron's Banger Response to Roon's Tweet 01:47:00 — Nuance About Pausing AI Development 01:50:57 — Capitalism Isn't Going to Steer Us to an Alignment Solution 01:53:10 — Is Optimization Equivalent to Intelligence? 01:57:21 — BREAKING: Bernie Sanders on the Existential Threat of AI 02:01:12 — Spoiler for the Upcoming Mike Israetel Episode 02:01:57 — $500 Bet on AI Unemployment 02:05:46 — Misuse, Surveillance, and the Real Costs of Pausing AI 02:11:04 — Wrap-Up Links Nick Bostrom, Deep Utopia: Life and Meaning in a Solved World (Amazon) — https://www.amazon.com/Deep-Utopia-Meaning-Solved-World/dp/1646871642 Yudkowsky & Soares, If Anyone Builds It, Everyone Dies (book) — https://www.amazon.com/If-Anyone-Builds-Everyone-Dies/dp/0316571253 Doom…","meta_description":"Multiple live callers join this month's Q&A as I react to Dwarkesh Patel's $20K blog prize, debate the orthogonality thesis from first principles, and…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":7920,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/doom-debates-6934136/episodes/live-q-a-bernie-sanders-wakes-up-to-ai-doom-dwarkesh-s-20-000-questions-caller-debates-the-alignment-problem/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/doom-debates-6934136/live-q-a-bernie-sanders-wakes-up-to-ai-doom-dwarkesh-s-20-000-questions-caller-debates-the-alignment-problem.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}