{"podcast":{"title":"Does the Bible say THAT?!?","slug":"does-the-bible-say-that-6622015","podcast_index_feed_id":6622015,"rss_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/e6ea7bd0/podcast/rss","website_url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/david-lester1","image_url":"https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/staging/podcast_uploaded_nologo/38641268/38641268-1693459155887-b9c7297a26f58.jpg","author":"David Lester","episode_count":55,"summary":"All about the Bible. This podcast walks through the books of the Bible talking about what the sacred text says and means (as best as we can tell). This is an inclusive show for anyone, regardless of belief or non-belief, wanting to learn more about the Bible.","last_synced_at":"2026-06-09T18:21:35.795186+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/does-the-bible-say-that-6622015"},"episode":{"title":"SPECIAL: Eucontamination and Disgust Theology: Billie Hoard and Dr. Paul Hoard","slug":"special-eucontamination-and-disgust-theology-billie-hoard-and-dr-paul-hoard","published_at":"2025-10-14T08:13:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/does-the-bible-say-that-6622015/special-eucontamination-and-disgust-theology-billie-hoard-and-dr-paul-hoard","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/does-the-bible-say-that-6622015","url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/david-lester1/episodes/SPECIAL-Eucontamination-and-Disgust-Theology-Billie-Hoard-and-Dr--Paul-Hoard-e39ak7o","audio_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/e6ea7bd0/podcast/play/109448888/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-9-9%2F1502ea91-d4ff-4322-243c-74b0e4f819ed.mp3","summary":"Dave Lester is joined by authors Billie Hoard (a previous guest on the "Drunk and Naked Noah" episode) and Dr. Paul Hoard (his literal neighbor down the street) to chat about their new book: "Eucontamination: Digust Theology and the Christian Life". The book is an intersection between theological and psychological ideas and is super fascinating, contains many CS Lewis quotes and contains relevant challenges for the church in our present age. We also relate a recent news story involving Rev David Black being shot in the face with a pepper ball while protesting the government's treatment of immigrants to disgust theology and eucontamination. **Buy the book "Eucontamination: Disgust Theology and the Christian Life" right here: https://wipfandstock.com/9798385213726/eucontamination/ References for this episode: *Read Dr. Paul Hoard's Substack: https://paulhoard.substack.com/ *Read Billie Hoard's Substack: https://substack.com/@billieiswriting *"Freud's Last Session: Finding the Other in the Question of God" by Dr. Paul R. Hoard and Billie Hoard. The Other Journal. https://theotherjournal.com/2024/04/freuds-last-session/ ** The Integrative Mindset by Brad D. Strawn and Earl D. Bland. https://www.amazon.com/Integrative-Mindset-Practicing-Association-Psychological/dp/1514002205 Opening Music: Struttin With Some Barbeque by Louis Armstrong","meta_description":"Dave Lester is joined by authors Billie Hoard (a previous guest on the \"Drunk and Naked Noah\" episode) and Dr. Paul Hoard (his literal neighbor…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":4366,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/does-the-bible-say-that-6622015/episodes/special-eucontamination-and-disgust-theology-billie-hoard-and-dr-paul-hoard/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/does-the-bible-say-that-6622015/special-eucontamination-and-disgust-theology-billie-hoard-and-dr-paul-hoard.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}