{"podcast":{"title":"Does the Bible say THAT?!?","slug":"does-the-bible-say-that-6622015","podcast_index_feed_id":6622015,"rss_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/e6ea7bd0/podcast/rss","website_url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/david-lester1","image_url":"https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/staging/podcast_uploaded_nologo/38641268/38641268-1693459155887-b9c7297a26f58.jpg","author":"David Lester","episode_count":55,"summary":"All about the Bible. This podcast walks through the books of the Bible talking about what the sacred text says and means (as best as we can tell). This is an inclusive show for anyone, regardless of belief or non-belief, wanting to learn more about the Bible.","last_synced_at":"2026-06-09T18:21:35.795186+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/does-the-bible-say-that-6622015"},"episode":{"title":"028: Hagar and the God Who Sees: Liz Charlotte Grant (Genesis 16)","slug":"028-hagar-and-the-god-who-sees-liz-charlotte-grant-genesis-16","published_at":"2026-01-20T22:11:28+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/does-the-bible-say-that-6622015/028-hagar-and-the-god-who-sees-liz-charlotte-grant-genesis-16","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/does-the-bible-say-that-6622015","url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/david-lester1/episodes/028-Hagar-and-the-God-Who-Sees-Liz-Charlotte-Grant-Genesis-16-e3durn4","audio_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/e6ea7bd0/podcast/play/114306212/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-0-20%2F0d7b0a3b-da8f-abb2-a781-e61bd590dfd2.mp3","summary":"Author Liz Charlotte Grant joins the podcast to discuss the account of Hagar in Genesis 16. We dive deep into Hagar's abuse at the hands of Abram and Sarai, her fleeing into the desert and her encounter with the Angel of the Lord. Liz Charlotte Grant also talks about her debut book "Knock at the Sky: Seeking God in Genesis After Losing Faith in the Bible". Get a copy of Liz Charlotte Grant's book "Knock at the Sky" right here: https://www.amazon.com/Knock-Sky-Seeking-Genesis-Losing/dp/0802883753 Read the 1978 Chicago Statement on Biblical Inerrancy right here: https://reformation.net/uploads/1/1/7/6/117618790/the_chicago_statement_on_biblical_inerrancy.pdf Read Liz Charlotte Grant's perspective on the 1978 Chicago Statement on Biblical Inerrancy right here: https://www.christiancentury.org/features/certainty-summit Sources used for this episode: *The NIV Application Commentary: Genesis by Dr. John Walton *Word Biblical Commentary: Genesis 1-15 by Gordon J. Wenham *The IVP Bible Background Commentary: Old Testament by John H. Walton, Victor H Matthews & Mark W. Chavalas *The New International Commentary: The Book of Genesis: Chapters 1-17 by Victor P. Hamilton *Knock at the Sky: Seeking God in Genesis After Losing Faith in the Bible" by Liz Charlotte Grant *Reading Genesis by Marilynn Robinson *Womanist Midrash: A Reintroduction to the Women of the Torah and the Throne by Wilda Gafney Opening Music: Struttin With Some Barbeque by Louis Armstrong","meta_description":"Author Liz Charlotte Grant joins the podcast to discuss the account of Hagar in Genesis 16. We dive deep into Hagar's abuse at the hands of Abram and Sara…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":6223,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/does-the-bible-say-that-6622015/episodes/028-hagar-and-the-god-who-sees-liz-charlotte-grant-genesis-16/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/does-the-bible-say-that-6622015/028-hagar-and-the-god-who-sees-liz-charlotte-grant-genesis-16.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}