{"podcast":{"title":"Doc Walks","slug":"doc-walks-7327673","podcast_index_feed_id":7327673,"rss_url":"https://feeds.libsyn.com/576985/rss","website_url":"http://www.docwalkspod.com/","image_url":"https://static.libsyn.com/p/assets/8/8/b/3/88b35d9d7d68506bd959afa2a1bf1c87/DOCWALKS_Artwork.png","author":"Doc Walks","episode_count":59,"summary":"Documentary filmmakers, Keith Maitland (TOWER, DEAR MR BRODY) and Ben Steinbauer (WINNEBAGO MAN, CHOP & STEELE), host this lively walk & talk podcast featuring conversations with today's best non-fiction storytellers. DocWalks takes the conversation to the street (or nature trail), offering candid insight into the art & industry of documentary filmmaking for an audience of emerging filmmakers and doc-lovers alike.","last_synced_at":null,"page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/doc-walks-7327673"},"episode":{"title":"EP035 - Dyin' Is Easy, Comedy Is Hard w/Louis Alvarez & Andy Kolker","slug":"ep035-dyin-is-easy-comedy-is-hard-w-louis-alvarez-andy-kolker","published_at":"2026-01-08T13:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/doc-walks-7327673/ep035-dyin-is-easy-comedy-is-hard-w-louis-alvarez-andy-kolker","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/doc-walks-7327673","url":"https://docwalkspod.com/ep035-dyin-is-easy-comedy-is-hard-wlouis-alvarez-andy-kolker","audio_url":"https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/769d52a5-d399-4750-a0ce-f637076f16a6/DW_EP035_LOUISANDY_FINAL.mp3?dest-id=4997995","summary":"Come along as Ben flies solo—no Keith, just the UT campus and two documentary titans who've been making films together longer than most marriages last: the indomitable Louis Alvarez and Andrew Kolker have a working partnership runnin' north of fifty years. They made AMERICAN TONGUES (1988) back when folks across the US said they just spoke like everyone else. They made PEOPLE LIKE US (1999) while Americans were spurring their nose at class conversations. And they're still at it—currently chasing down an obscure architect and sharing a film about a storied Texas State Senator. We get into the unglamorous truth of comedic docs (funders hate them), the secret to not killing your creative partner (separate wives, separate boroughs), and why the best stories are in places nobody's looking. They started as VISTA volunteers in New Orleans with no one to tell them where to point the camera. Now they're late-career and busy doing whatever the hell they want. Plus: we decipher a bunch of boats strung together, we bask in neo-classical architecture, all while Louis just wants a dirty chai. DISCUSSION LINKS: AMERICAN TONGUES (1988) | YEAH YOU RITE! (1985) | PEOPLE LIKE US (1999) | CONFLUENCE (2024) | WINNEBAGO MAN (2010) TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 Keith sits this one out 00:49 Meeting Louis and Andy on the UT campus 02:42 The Rodney Ellis short and pulling political levers 04:13 Fifty years of partnership—step one: separate wives 07:41 Cass Gilbert: The everywhere architect you've never heard of 11:17 VISTA volunteers in 1970s New Orleans 15:28 Filming the intangible—accents, class, motherhood 17:48 Why funders hate funny 19:56 The three Cs killing documentary: celebrity, crime, cults 22:08 Steel canoes and the sculpture guessing game 25:32 Making CONFLUENCE during COVID 29:13 AI horror mo…","meta_description":"Come along as Ben flies solo—no Keith, just the UT campus and two documentary titans who've been making films together longer than most marriages last: th…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2833,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/doc-walks-7327673/episodes/ep035-dyin-is-easy-comedy-is-hard-w-louis-alvarez-andy-kolker/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/doc-walks-7327673/ep035-dyin-is-easy-comedy-is-hard-w-louis-alvarez-andy-kolker.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}