{"podcast":{"title":"Distance To Empty","slug":"distance-to-empty-6729493","podcast_index_feed_id":6729493,"rss_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/ef81d1e4/podcast/rss","website_url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/kevin-goldberg","image_url":"https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/production/podcast_uploaded_nologo/40082625/40082625-1719777787541-d5d6c2afe6908.jpg","author":"Kevin Goldberg and Peter Noyes","episode_count":155,"summary":"Become a Subscriber: http://patreon.com/DistancetoEmptyPod Distance To Empty will take its audience deep into the world of ultra-endurance running, with a particular focus on races exceeding 200 miles. Through in-depth interviews with athletes, race organizers and sports scientists, the episodes shed light on the unique challenges and strategies involved in tackling these extreme distances. Tune in and learn what it takes to reach your distance to empty.","last_synced_at":null,"page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/distance-to-empty-6729493"},"episode":{"title":"Zach Hauer on Chasing the Podium at Cocodona 250, and What 200s Teach You That Nothing Else Can","slug":"zach-hauer-on-chasing-the-podium-at-cocodona-250-and-what-200s-teach-you-that-nothing-else-can","published_at":"2026-05-22T19:11:25+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/distance-to-empty-6729493/zach-hauer-on-chasing-the-podium-at-cocodona-250-and-what-200s-teach-you-that-nothing-else-can","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/distance-to-empty-6729493","url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/kevin-goldberg/episodes/Zach-Hauer-on-Chasing-the-Podium-at-Cocodona-250--and-What-200s-Teach-You-That-Nothing-Else-Can-e3jor82","audio_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/ef81d1e4/podcast/play/120400578/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-4-22%2F7fa5ba03-9924-803c-c937-cd6037533bc4.mp3","summary":"Become a Distance to Empty subscriber!: https://www.patreon.com/DistancetoEmptyPod Get some free DTE Swag by supporting out sponsors! ⁠https://janji.com/pages/distance-to-empty⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and be sure to select 'podcast' > 'Distance to Empty' on the post purchase "How did you hear about Janji" page. Thank you! Check out Mount to Coast here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://mounttocoast.com/discount/Distance⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Code IRON at www.goodranchers.com and mention us in the post purchase survey! Zach Hauer joins Kevin Goldberg fresh off his first-ever 200+ mile race — the Cocodona 250 — where he finished in 69 hours after spending much of the race in podium contention. A former University of Arizona track and cross country runner turned competitive ultrarunner, Zach brings a unique perspective to the 250-mile distance, drawing on experience from UTMB's CCC and golden ticket races that set him apart from much of the field. In this episode, Zach breaks down the full arc of his race: the unexpected mental fog of running in a lead pack, a costly navigation blunder through the Fain Ranch section, a "hero dose" creatine experiment that left him feeling like he was having an out-of-body experience, and a deeply emotional low on the climb to Schnebly Hill that had him questioning everything — followed by one of his strongest sections of the race. He also reflects on sleep strategy (or lack thereof), the difference between giving up and quitting, and what it means to voluntarily choose suffering in a sport where so many face it without a choice. We also get his inside look at how Cody Poskin, Joe McConaughy, and Courtney Dauwalter race these things, a quick breakdown of his training approach and what he'd do differently, and why he'd come back and do it a…","meta_description":"Become a Distance to Empty subscriber!: https://www.patreon.com/DistancetoEmptyPod Get some free DTE Swag by supporting out sponsors! ⁠https://janji.com/p…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":5082,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/distance-to-empty-6729493/episodes/zach-hauer-on-chasing-the-podium-at-cocodona-250-and-what-200s-teach-you-that-nothing-else-can/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/distance-to-empty-6729493/zach-hauer-on-chasing-the-podium-at-cocodona-250-and-what-200s-teach-you-that-nothing-else-can.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}