{"podcast":{"title":"Distance To Empty","slug":"distance-to-empty-6729493","podcast_index_feed_id":6729493,"rss_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/ef81d1e4/podcast/rss","website_url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/kevin-goldberg","image_url":"https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/production/podcast_uploaded_nologo/40082625/40082625-1719777787541-d5d6c2afe6908.jpg","author":"Kevin Goldberg and Peter Noyes","episode_count":155,"summary":"Become a Subscriber: http://patreon.com/DistancetoEmptyPod Distance To Empty will take its audience deep into the world of ultra-endurance running, with a particular focus on races exceeding 200 miles. Through in-depth interviews with athletes, race organizers and sports scientists, the episodes shed light on the unique challenges and strategies involved in tackling these extreme distances. Tune in and learn what it takes to reach your distance to empty.","last_synced_at":null,"page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/distance-to-empty-6729493"},"episode":{"title":"Michael Versteeg is Flagstaff Bound at the 2026 Cocodona 250","slug":"michael-versteeg-is-flagstaff-bound-at-the-2026-cocodona-250","published_at":"2026-04-14T18:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/distance-to-empty-6729493/michael-versteeg-is-flagstaff-bound-at-the-2026-cocodona-250","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/distance-to-empty-6729493","url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/kevin-goldberg/episodes/Michael-Versteeg-is-Flagstaff-Bound-at-the-2026-Cocodona-250-e3htggl","audio_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/ef81d1e4/podcast/play/118456277/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-3-14%2F06fedf80-635f-e6e7-725c-701a4643eb58.mp3","summary":"FLAGSTAFF BOUND is BACK for 2026! Become a Distance to Empty subscriber!: https://www.patreon.com/DistancetoEmptyPod Code IRON at www.goodranchers.com and mention us in the post purchase survey! Get some free DTE Swag by supporting out sponsors! Check out Mount to Coast here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://mounttocoast.com/discount/Distance⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Janji.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and be sure to select 'podcast' > 'Distance to Empty' on the post purchase "How did you hear about Janji" page. Thank you! He won the first one. He's been back every year since. He dropped in 2025 after running the first 160 miles better than he ever has, four hours ahead of his ghost from the previous year, and then sat in his van in Sedona in the worst storm of the worst weather year Cocodona has ever seen and decided he was done. He is back for year six. In this episode of Flagstaff Bound, Kevin and Peter sit down with Michael Versteeg, who is refreshingly honest about where he's at heading into 2026. He's not as prepared as last year. His goal is to finish. Not because he's given up on running it fast, he still thinks the course can be run faster than he's ever run it, but because if this is going to be his last Cocodona, he wants to leave it on a finish. His daughter is almost three and this is the first year she'll understand what's going on. Everything he does revolves around her. He also wants to bring an adjustable basketball hoop to Mingus Mountain and potentially a skateboard to Sedona, because if you've run this course six times you need to find ways to keep it interesting. His five-word description of Cocodona 250 is simply: no. Cocodona 250 kicks off Monday, May 4th at 5 AM Pacific. Follow the action live on the Mountain Outpost YouTube channel.","meta_description":"FLAGSTAFF BOUND is BACK for 2026! Become a Distance to Empty subscriber!: https://www.patreon.com/DistancetoEmptyPod Code IRON at www.goodranchers.com and…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":1611,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/distance-to-empty-6729493/episodes/michael-versteeg-is-flagstaff-bound-at-the-2026-cocodona-250/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/distance-to-empty-6729493/michael-versteeg-is-flagstaff-bound-at-the-2026-cocodona-250.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}