{"podcast":{"title":"Disorder","slug":"disorder-6608099","podcast_index_feed_id":6608099,"rss_url":"https://feeds.megaphone.fm/disorder","website_url":"https://disordershow.com/","image_url":"https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/266777a6-4d7b-11ee-9675-d7de9b1d81e5/image/5a84a736c635a907d8a254ce114c54b3.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&max-w=3000&max-h=3000&fit=crop&auto=format,compress","author":"Global Enduring Disorder Ltd","episode_count":198,"summary":"Are you fed up with the never ending crises in the news? Are you looking for Order amidst the Disorder? Listen to the Disorder Podcast as we offer forward thinking solutions to the biggest challenges of the day. We are living through an age of unrivaled disorder: an out-of-control Trump Administration, never ending scandals, escalating threats from China, Iran, and Russia, and the rapid march of destabilizing tech. The “good guys” - rules-based ordering centrists - are on the back foot, while neo-populist strongmen gain ground by fuelling more and more chaos. But there are ways out of this mess. Join us as we Order the Disorder. Each week, host Jason Pack, co-hosts Jane Kinnimont and Mark Lobel, world-leading experts, senior diplomats and cultural icons, present their solutions to problems like: why are centrists losing and populist strongmen winning? How do we save our democracies? How do we deal with threats from Disorderers like Iran and Russia? And how do we build multilateral coalitions that work, how can we regulate AI, defend Ukraine, and fight climate change? All in a world without American leadership? Disorder is the go-to podcast for anyone who wants intelligent, thought…","last_synced_at":"2026-06-16T12:21:10.106481+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/disorder-6608099"},"episode":{"title":"Ep 185. Is Ukraine Winning? And how has the Iran war reshaped the Middle East? With David Tafuri","slug":"ep-185-is-ukraine-winning-and-how-has-the-iran-war-reshaped-the-middle-east-with-david-tafuri","published_at":"2026-05-26T01:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/disorder-6608099/ep-185-is-ukraine-winning-and-how-has-the-iran-war-reshaped-the-middle-east-with-david-tafuri","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/disorder-6608099","url":"https://pdst.fm/e/tracking.swap.fm/track/2IMk17EdnEqyRhJTIpIU/traffic.megaphone.fm/FPMN8707020689.mp3","audio_url":"https://pdst.fm/e/tracking.swap.fm/track/2IMk17EdnEqyRhJTIpIU/traffic.megaphone.fm/FPMN8707020689.mp3","summary":"The crises across our disordered world are more interconnected than ever. As states pursue their own self-interest, genuine collective action for mutual shared benefit seems further away than ever before. How can we ever hope to Order this Disorder? To try, Jason is joined this week by his old friend David Tafuri. David previously served as the US Department of State’s Rule of Law Coordinator for Iraq, was an outside foreign policy advisor to President Obama’s campaign in 2008, has worked for the United Nations in Turkey, and is the founder and current President of the US-Kurdistan Business Council. The pair start with the latest in Ukraine--following up on David’s recent visit there. Then they embark on a whistle stop tour of the Middle East, exploring the latest in Iraq, Syria, Israel, and Lebanon. And… as they Order the Disorder, the discuss the situation in the Gulf, how the Gulfis and European Allies could help open Hormuz, the need to tackle misinformation, and why the Trump admin needs to put aside its destructive unilateralism and work more closely with traditional American allies on Ukraine and the Iran war. To join our Mega Orderers Club for ad free listening, early episode releases and exclusive access to live events, visit disordershow.com/club To tell us more about Disorder, visit disordershow.com/survey Producer: George McDonagh Subscribe to our Substack - https://natoandtheged.substack.com/ Disorder on YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@DisorderShow Show Notes Links: To join our Mega Orderers Club for ad free listening, early episode releases and exclusive access to live events, visit disordershow.com/club Watch more on David’s attempts to address misinformation in Ukraine: https://youtube.com/shorts/TWRqQNojKvg?si=dRu81hERC5-HYGNz More on David’s career…","meta_description":"The crises across our disordered world are more interconnected than ever. 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