{"podcast":{"title":"Devex Podcasts","slug":"devex-podcasts-65118","podcast_index_feed_id":65118,"rss_url":"https://feeds.soundcloud.com/users/soundcloud:users:367368098/sounds.rss","website_url":"https://soundcloud.com/devex-intl","image_url":"https://i1.sndcdn.com/avatars-le8u21hugyYvGEas-yI8JJA-original.jpg","author":"Devex","episode_count":337,"summary":"We're the world’s leading independent news organi…","last_synced_at":"2026-07-03T00:17:04.801409+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/devex-podcasts-65118"},"episode":{"title":"Theory of Change: #2: Seth Berkley has seen our pandemic future","slug":"theory-of-change-2-seth-berkley-has-seen-our-pandemic-future","published_at":"2026-06-09T07:52:47+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/devex-podcasts-65118/theory-of-change-2-seth-berkley-has-seen-our-pandemic-future","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/devex-podcasts-65118","url":"https://soundcloud.com/devex-intl/seth-berkley-has-seen-our-pandemic-future","audio_url":"https://feeds.soundcloud.com/stream/2335974164-devex-intl-seth-berkley-has-seen-our-pandemic-future.mp3","summary":"Much of Seth Berkley's career has been an attempt to answer the question: How do you get vaccines to people who aren’t well-served by an inequitable global health system? When the COVID-19 outbreak exploded in early 2020, that question took on new urgency — along with a mind-spinning slew of political, economic, technological, and cultural complications. Berkley, then the CEO of Gavi, the Vaccine Alliance, had a pretty good idea what was coming. As early as February 2020 he was warning publicly that if researchers were successful in developing a COVID-19 vaccine, lower-income countries would struggle to access them. That is exactly what happened. It is also what led Berkley to help launch COVAX, the global initiative to deliver COVID-19 vaccines around the world. In the wake of the pandemic, the relationships between politics, society, and vaccines have only grown more fraught. One example: Secretary of Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has personally intervened to block U.S. funding to Gavi. Berkley, a physician and infectious disease epidemiologist, joined Devex’s Theory of Change podcast to discuss the lessons of the COVID-19 response, the long and complicated history of humanity’s relationships with vaccines, the incredible potential of new technologies — and the deeply troubling risks that some of them pose. His new book is called “Fair Doses: An Insider's Story of the Pandemic and the Global Fight for Vaccine Equity.”","meta_description":"Much of Seth Berkley's career has been an attempt to answer the question: How do you get vaccines to people who aren’t well-served by an inequitable globa…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":4728,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/devex-podcasts-65118/episodes/theory-of-change-2-seth-berkley-has-seen-our-pandemic-future/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/devex-podcasts-65118/theory-of-change-2-seth-berkley-has-seen-our-pandemic-future.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}