{"podcast":{"title":"Dev Propulsion Labs","slug":"dev-propulsion-labs-6704290","podcast_index_feed_id":6704290,"rss_url":"https://media.rss.com/dpl/feed.xml","website_url":"https://rss.com/podcasts/dpl","image_url":"https://media.rss.com/dpl/20231130_121111_9325ba0ccf1fa632d70f120479a001f9.jpg","author":"Evil Martians","episode_count":36,"summary":"Dev Propulsion Labs is a podcast about the business of developer tools, hosted by Victoria Melnikova. Victoria is a business and go-to-market expert for developer tools and AI, working with 40+ early-stage startups a year as Head of New Business at Evil Martians. She sits down face-to-face in San Francisco with founders behind companies like Cursor, Sentry, Supabase, Resend, CodeRabbit, WorkOS, Elixir, and PlanetScale to talk about what actually makes developer-focused businesses work. Dev Propulsion Labs is produced by Evil Martians, a design and engineering consultancy for developer tools, AI, and cybersecurity startups. Enjoyed by 45K+ listeners.","last_synced_at":null,"page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/dev-propulsion-labs-6704290"},"episode":{"title":"Sarah Wooders on why LLMs are like Memento and building the infrastructure for stateful AI agents","slug":"sarah-wooders-on-why-llms-are-like-memento-and-building-the-infrastructure-for-stateful-ai-agents","published_at":"2025-09-11T15:38:40+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/dev-propulsion-labs-6704290/sarah-wooders-on-why-llms-are-like-memento-and-building-the-infrastructure-for-stateful-ai-agents","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/dev-propulsion-labs-6704290","url":"https://rss.com/podcasts/dpl/2209703","audio_url":"https://content.rss.com/episodes/239660/2209703/dpl/2025_09_10_20_55_32_0354cf26-5257-4dba-a8a9-50c97223668f.mp3","summary":"Join us for a conversation with Sarah Wooders, CTO & co-founder of Letta AI, as she reveals why LLMs are not there yet and how stateful agents will unlock the next generation of AI applications. From Berkeley PhD to YC alum to building the infrastructure for truly intelligent agents. Key insights from this episode. On the core problem with LLMs: \"It's kind of like if you've seen the movie Memento... if you have a person that just forgets every single day or forgets every five minutes... That's basically what LLMs are.\" Why 2025 feels like the early Internet: \"I feel like with AI, this is our version of that. There's just so much opportunity. Everything is so undefined. There's a ton of white space... so much low hanging fruit.\" The difference between real agents and marketing fluff: \"A lot of people just added LLMs into [existing workflows] and then called them an agent... that's inherently still very different from something that's like an agent that has identity, that works autonomously, that learns.\" On building in the AI boom vs 2020: \"Right now is a much better time to be building a startup... the amount of value that's just being created and that you can capture is so much more.\" What's still missing in AI infrastructure: \"MCP is super early... there's a ton of differences in how people implement the protocol. Auth hasn't really been figured out. There's a big lack of standardization.\" Why open source matters for AI tools: \"We want to do that agentic orchestration in an open way... allowing developers to have as much control as possible over their context window, being able to see what tokens are going in and out.\" Links: Letta AI: https://letta.com Sarah Wooders on X: https://x.com/sarahwooders Evil Martians on X: https://x.com/evilmartians Victoria Melnikov…","meta_description":"Join us for a conversation with Sarah Wooders, CTO & co-founder of Letta AI, as she reveals why LLMs are not there yet and how stateful agents will un…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2217,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/dev-propulsion-labs-6704290/episodes/sarah-wooders-on-why-llms-are-like-memento-and-building-the-infrastructure-for-stateful-ai-agents/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/dev-propulsion-labs-6704290/sarah-wooders-on-why-llms-are-like-memento-and-building-the-infrastructure-for-stateful-ai-agents.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}