{"podcast":{"title":"Dev Propulsion Labs","slug":"dev-propulsion-labs-6704290","podcast_index_feed_id":6704290,"rss_url":"https://media.rss.com/dpl/feed.xml","website_url":"https://rss.com/podcasts/dpl","image_url":"https://media.rss.com/dpl/20231130_121111_9325ba0ccf1fa632d70f120479a001f9.jpg","author":"Evil Martians","episode_count":36,"summary":"Dev Propulsion Labs is a podcast about the business of developer tools, hosted by Victoria Melnikova. Victoria is a business and go-to-market expert for developer tools and AI, working with 40+ early-stage startups a year as Head of New Business at Evil Martians. She sits down face-to-face in San Francisco with founders behind companies like Cursor, Sentry, Supabase, Resend, CodeRabbit, WorkOS, Elixir, and PlanetScale to talk about what actually makes developer-focused businesses work. Dev Propulsion Labs is produced by Evil Martians, a design and engineering consultancy for developer tools, AI, and cybersecurity startups. Enjoyed by 45K+ listeners.","last_synced_at":null,"page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/dev-propulsion-labs-6704290"},"episode":{"title":"Matt Biilmann of Netlify: why agent experience is the new developer experience | Evil Martians","slug":"matt-biilmann-of-netlify-why-agent-experience-is-the-new-developer-experience-evil-martians","published_at":"2026-05-12T03:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/dev-propulsion-labs-6704290/matt-biilmann-of-netlify-why-agent-experience-is-the-new-developer-experience-evil-martians","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/dev-propulsion-labs-6704290","url":"https://rss.com/podcasts/dpl/2814209","audio_url":"https://content.rss.com/episodes/239660/2814209/dpl/2026_05_11_20_18_25_44e74a2d-7113-4c22-a4c7-7cbc1568da8e.mp3","summary":"Matt Biilmann, CEO and co-founder of Netlify ( https://www.netlify.com/ ), sits down with Victoria Melnikova to talk about why agent experience (AX) is replacing developer experience in developer tools. He also shares how Netlify went from a bootstrapped two-person team to the deployment platform behind Bolt, Lovable, and ChatGPT-generated sites. Matt is excited by agentic coding and explains the addressable market for Netlify just jumped from 17 million JavaScript developers to 3 billion people. He shares the four pillars of agent experience (access, context, tools, and orchestration), why leading with developer experience beat leading with performance or security in Netlify's early days, and why he believes everyone is about to become at least somewhat of a developer. Victoria Melnikova is a business and go-to-market expert for developer tools and AI, and host of Dev Propulsion Labs. She works with 40+ early-stage startups a year as Head of New Business at Evil Martians. https://x.com/vmelnikova_en Evil Martians is a design and engineering consultancy for developer tools, AI, and cybersecurity startups. https://evilmartians.com/ Recorded at Chroma. Vector, full-text, regex, and metadata search. Develop locally and scale to petabytes in the cloud backed by object storage. Serverless search and retrieval that is fast, cheap, and reliable. https://www.trychroma.com","meta_description":"Matt Biilmann, CEO and co-founder of Netlify ( https://www.netlify.com/ ), sits down with Victoria Melnikova to talk about why agent experience (AX) is re…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3472,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/dev-propulsion-labs-6704290/episodes/matt-biilmann-of-netlify-why-agent-experience-is-the-new-developer-experience-evil-martians/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/dev-propulsion-labs-6704290/matt-biilmann-of-netlify-why-agent-experience-is-the-new-developer-experience-evil-martians.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}