{"podcast":{"title":"Design Better","slug":"design-better-58582","podcast_index_feed_id":58582,"rss_url":"https://feeds.megaphone.fm/designbetter","website_url":"http://designbetterpodcast.com","image_url":"https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/5c7f5f0a-37c0-11ee-b4ef-e736dc77755f/image/d9388f8e30c83625a7a26fcedbaa3b74.png?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&max-w=3000&max-h=3000&fit=crop&auto=format,compress","author":"The Curiosity Department","episode_count":259,"summary":"Design Better co-hosts Eli Woolery and Aarron Walter explore the intersection of design, technology, and the creative process through conversations with guests across many creative fields, helping you hone your craft, unlock your creativity, and learn the art of collaboration. Whether you’re design curious or a design pro, Design Better is guaranteed to inspire and inform. Vanity Fair calls Design Better, “sharp, to the point, and full of incredibly valuable information for anyone looking to better understand how to build a more innovative world.”","last_synced_at":"2026-09-02T22:23:13.471687+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/design-better-58582"},"episode":{"title":"Ian Bogost: Game designer, Atlantic writer, and philosopher of the ordinary, on the small stuff that makes life delightful","slug":"ian-bogost-game-designer-atlantic-writer-and-philosopher-of-the-ordinary-on-the-small-stuff-that-makes-life-delightful","published_at":"2026-07-15T11:41:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/design-better-58582/ian-bogost-game-designer-atlantic-writer-and-philosopher-of-the-ordinary-on-the-small-stuff-that-makes-life-delightful","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/design-better-58582","url":"https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/ian-bogost","audio_url":"https://pdst.fm/e/p.podderapp.com/1794982497/chrt.fm/track/1C4248/prfx.byspotify.com/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/211/traffic.megaphone.fm/MLALE5136880996.mp3","summary":"A few years ago, Ian Bogost wrote what he thought was a throwaway Atlantic piece about how electric vehicles would finally kill the manual transmission. It went off like a bomb — and the reaction told him people weren’t mourning a car part. They were mourning the feeling of dropping a gear into place, a small moment of sensory connection quietly disappearing without anyone choosing to give it up. Find the full episode and bonus content on our Substack: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/ian-bogost That feeling is the subject of his new book, The Small Stuff. Ian calls it gratification — distinct from happiness or satisfaction, it’s the immediate sensory delight of communing with ordinary things: the ridged coffee cup, the click of an elevator button, the tink of ice in a water bottle. And he diagnoses what he calls dematerialization: the slow way efficiency, automation, and software have severed us from the physical texture of daily life. A game designer, longtime Atlantic contributor, and philosopher of the everyday at Washington University in St. Louis, Ian has spent his career — across books like Persuasive Games and Play Anything — arguing that the systems we build carry values whether we intend them to or not. Here he turns that lens on the ordinary objects most of us stopped noticing long ago. For designers, this is becoming more and more relevant. Ian argues that somewhere between the mid-90s and now, user-centered design quietly mutated into outcome-oriented design — we kept the language of user experience while the goals drifted toward the organization instead of the person. But this isn’t nostalgia or a plea for friction. Gratification, he insists, is easy. It’s already happening to you all the time. The designer’s job isn’t to add friction, but to notice wher…","meta_description":"A few years ago, Ian Bogost wrote what he thought was a throwaway Atlantic piece about how electric vehicles would finally kill the manual transmission. I…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2836,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/design-better-58582/episodes/ian-bogost-game-designer-atlantic-writer-and-philosopher-of-the-ordinary-on-the-small-stuff-that-makes-life-delightful/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/design-better-58582/ian-bogost-game-designer-atlantic-writer-and-philosopher-of-the-ordinary-on-the-small-stuff-that-makes-life-delightful.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}