{"podcast":{"title":"Design Better","slug":"design-better-58582","podcast_index_feed_id":58582,"rss_url":"https://feeds.megaphone.fm/designbetter","website_url":"http://designbetterpodcast.com","image_url":"https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/5c7f5f0a-37c0-11ee-b4ef-e736dc77755f/image/d9388f8e30c83625a7a26fcedbaa3b74.png?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&max-w=3000&max-h=3000&fit=crop&auto=format,compress","author":"The Curiosity Department","episode_count":259,"summary":"Design Better co-hosts Eli Woolery and Aarron Walter explore the intersection of design, technology, and the creative process through conversations with guests across many creative fields, helping you hone your craft, unlock your creativity, and learn the art of collaboration. Whether you’re design curious or a design pro, Design Better is guaranteed to inspire and inform. Vanity Fair calls Design Better, “sharp, to the point, and full of incredibly valuable information for anyone looking to better understand how to build a more innovative world.”","last_synced_at":"2026-09-02T22:23:13.471687+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/design-better-58582"},"episode":{"title":"Angel Steger: Wealthfront's VP of Design on what architecture teaches you about software","slug":"angel-steger-wealthfront-s-vp-of-design-on-what-architecture-teaches-you-about-software","published_at":"2026-08-21T18:54:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/design-better-58582/angel-steger-wealthfront-s-vp-of-design-on-what-architecture-teaches-you-about-software","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/design-better-58582","url":"https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/angel-steger⁠","audio_url":"https://pdst.fm/e/p.podderapp.com/1794982497/chrt.fm/track/1C4248/prfx.byspotify.com/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/211/traffic.megaphone.fm/MLALE9831223478.mp3","summary":"A few years ago, Dropbox redesigned its website and revenue dropped by thirty percent. It was an all-hands-on-deck moment: people working weekends, everyone hunting for a systemic failure. Visit our Substack for bonus content and more: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/angel-steger The culprit turned out to be a pricing page — specifically, the white space between the feature list items was slightly too generous. Angel Steger noticed that her eye kept landing on the white instead of the words. They tightened the gaps, and the revenue came back. That’s the kind of thing Angel notices, and it’s not an accident. Currently the VP of Design at Wealthfront, She trained as an architect at RISD, where the first question in her first architecture class wasn’t about buildings. It was “What is a drawing?” — the sort of question that makes you realize every tool you reach for carries a point of view you probably haven’t examined. Angel’s path into tech was less deliberate. By her own account, she mouthed off to her boss, got fired, and spent the severance on O’Reilly books, taught herself to code, and became the first designer at MySpace — where the head of engineering proudly informed her that they had never had design and never would need it. She went on to become the first product designer at 23andMe, learned usability from Larry Tesler, and led design teams at Pinterest, Dropbox, and Meta before landing at Wealthfront. In this conversation, we get into what architecture teaches you about solving one problem at a time, why she tells her team to go lower fidelity, how a default chart setting can push someone into a financial decision they’ll regret, and what she looks for in a portfolio — high craft, high intentionality, and no boiled broccoli. Bio Angel joined Wealthfront in No…","meta_description":"A few years ago, Dropbox redesigned its website and revenue dropped by thirty percent. It was an all-hands-on-deck moment: people working weekends, everyo…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3158,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/design-better-58582/episodes/angel-steger-wealthfront-s-vp-of-design-on-what-architecture-teaches-you-about-software/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/design-better-58582/angel-steger-wealthfront-s-vp-of-design-on-what-architecture-teaches-you-about-software.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}