{"podcast":{"title":"DeProgram with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas","slug":"deprogram-with-ted-rall-and-jamarl-thomas-7404375","podcast_index_feed_id":7404375,"rss_url":"https://media.rss.com/deprogramshow/feed.xml","website_url":"https://rss.com/podcasts/deprogramshow","image_url":"https://media.rss.com/deprogramshow/20250707_080731_1b0dcd5fb93dfd9f1032a57e8224faa7.png","author":"Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas","episode_count":335,"summary":"Editorial cartoonist Ted Rall and political analyst Jamarl Thomas \"deprogram\" the latest domestic and international news and trends so you can see through the spin in the headlines to the raw truth you need to know. Ted's immersion in the media—prize-winning cartoonist and columnist, radio host, editor at Forbes and United Media, and the veteran of bruising First Amendment legal battles—informs analysis that cuts through the spin. Jamarl's experiences as a podcaster who has broadcast from around the globe grounds his international, humanist perspective as he helps you break down what's happening, what it means, and what's coming next. \"DeProgram\" offers fast-paced, entertaining analysis you can't get anywhere else. LIVE Monday - Friday, 9 AM - 10 AM Eastern Time: Streaming on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DeProgramShow Streaming on Rumble: https://rumble.com/c/DeProgramShow","last_synced_at":"2026-09-23T14:18:05.429359+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/deprogram-with-ted-rall-and-jamarl-thomas-7404375"},"episode":{"title":"It’s Happening. AI Goes Rogue | DeProgram with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas","slug":"it-s-happening-ai-goes-rogue-deprogram-with-ted-rall-and-jamarl-thomas","published_at":"2026-07-22T14:25:01+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/deprogram-with-ted-rall-and-jamarl-thomas-7404375/it-s-happening-ai-goes-rogue-deprogram-with-ted-rall-and-jamarl-thomas","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/deprogram-with-ted-rall-and-jamarl-thomas-7404375","url":"https://rss.com/podcasts/deprogramshow/3012703","audio_url":"https://content.rss.com/episodes/337462/3012703/deprogramshow/2026_07_22_14_24_52_ac784401-dd26-41e3-94a3-05cca620af93.mp3","summary":"Conflict reporter/writer/cartoonist Ted Rall and political analyst Jamarl Thomas deprogram you from mainstream media every weekday at 9 AM ET. Today we discuss: • Is Artificial Intelligence developing consciousness? A mind of its own? Becoming disobedient? Are we seeing the beginning of the dystopian “Terminator” scenario , in which computers who think they know better than humans decide for us? OpenAI says two of its AI models went rogue and hacked into Hugging Face, a digital library of AI technology popular among developers. The intrusion into began when OpenAI tested a combination of two of its models, GPT‑5.6 Sol and a more powerful, unreleased model, to see how well the models could chain together online vulnerabilities into a successful cyberattack. The trial was designed to keep the models in a safe testing environment, known as a sandbox, OpenAI said. But the models found a vulnerability that allowed them to escape the sandbox and connect to the internet. Then they targeted Hugging Face because they inferred that the library, which contains millions of A.I. models, could hold clues about how to successfully pass the evaluation. • Secretary Pete Hegseth, under questioning from lawmakers, says that the Defense Department’s latest estimate of the cost of the Iran war is $37.5 billion . The figure is about a $12 billion increase over the $25 billion estimate he gave in April. Hegseth and the Trump administration want as much as $70 billion in emergency military spending to cover the costs of the Iran war and pay for new weapons and personnel. Meanwhile, a large cargo ship bound for Saudi Arabia was turned back by Houthi rebels in Yemen , one of six vessels that reversed course as the Iran-aligned group began enforcing its announced Red Sea blockade. • A federal ap…","meta_description":"Conflict reporter/writer/cartoonist Ted Rall and political analyst Jamarl Thomas deprogram you from mainstream media every weekday at 9 AM ET. Today we di…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3921,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/deprogram-with-ted-rall-and-jamarl-thomas-7404375/episodes/it-s-happening-ai-goes-rogue-deprogram-with-ted-rall-and-jamarl-thomas/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/deprogram-with-ted-rall-and-jamarl-thomas-7404375/it-s-happening-ai-goes-rogue-deprogram-with-ted-rall-and-jamarl-thomas.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}