{"podcast":{"title":"Defining Hospitality","slug":"defining-hospitality-4474091","podcast_index_feed_id":4474091,"rss_url":"https://feeds.transistor.fm/defining-hospitality-podcast","website_url":"http://www.defininghospitality.live","image_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/OzoyXev3ftWKuyY_-NovZJmcbLN9d-mYgaYpwVNfSZw/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:1400/h:1400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9zaG93/LzM5MzU3LzE2ODE4/MjI1NTUtYXJ0d29y/ay5qcGc.jpg","author":"Dan Ryan","episode_count":261,"summary":"Welcome to Defining Hospitality, the podcast focused on highlighting the most influential figures in the hospitality industry. In each episode we provide 1 on 1, in depth interviews with experts in the industry to learn what hospitality means to them. We feature expert advice on working in the industry, behind the scenes looks at some of your favorite brands, and in depth explorations of unique hospitality projects. Defining Hospitality is hosted by Founder and CEO of Agency 967, Dan Ryan. With over 30 years of experience in hospitality, Dan brings his expertise and passion to each episode as he delves into the latest trends and challenges facing the industry. Episodes are released every week on Wednesday mornings. To listen to episodes, visit https://www.defininghospitality.live/ or subscribe to Defining Hospitality wherever you get your podcasts.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-22T18:21:25.387597+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/defining-hospitality-4474091"},"episode":{"title":"Balancing Business and Humanity - David Shove-Brown - Defining Hospitality","slug":"balancing-business-and-humanity-david-shove-brown-defining-hospitality","published_at":"2026-05-27T09:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/defining-hospitality-4474091/balancing-business-and-humanity-david-shove-brown-defining-hospitality","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/defining-hospitality-4474091","url":"https://share.transistor.fm/s/df8dd95a","audio_url":"https://media.transistor.fm/df8dd95a/194754ca.mp3","summary":"This week, Dan Ryan sits down with David Shove-Brown, architect, design leader, educator, and partner at //3877, to make the case that the most powerful thing you can put on your business card isn't a title, it's a philosophy. A firm co-founder who launched his practice in the middle of a recession with a newborn at home and a best friend from college as his only business partner, David has spent 15 years proving that relationships aren't a strategy, they're the whole game. David isn't just building great spaces. He's building a firm, a community, and a life worth writing about. About the Guest: On this episode, Dan Ryan sits down with David Shove-Brown, partner at //3877, an architecture and design firm based in DC and New York. David has spent 15 years building a practice and a reputation, on the belief that relationships come before business. Whether he's mentoring students at trade shows, swapping proposals with competitors, or just holding the door for a stranger, he moves through the world the same way he runs his firm, like every person in the room matters. Chapters: 00:51 Meet David 02:04 NEWH Mentorship Moment 03:53 Defining Hospitality 04:43 Community Over Competition 08:46 Networking Roots and Values 13:01 Relationship Building That Lasts 17:45 Balance Family and Firm 27:24 Design in the Public Interest 31:18 Losing a Mentor 32:46 Succession and Letting Go 33:56 Mentoring Through Mistakes 36:19 How to Find Mentors 38:01 Learning From Students 40:11 Community and Collisions 42:25 Craving Certainty Forward 48:25 Startup Stories and Growth 50:07 Looking Ahead and Wrap Quote of the Show: \"Networking always had this underlying idea of sales, we flipped it. For us, it's really relationship building.\" - David Shove-Brown Building a hotel, brand, or guest experience…","meta_description":"This week, Dan Ryan sits down with David Shove-Brown, architect, design leader, educator, and partner at //3877, to make the case that the most powerful t…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3419,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/defining-hospitality-4474091/episodes/balancing-business-and-humanity-david-shove-brown-defining-hospitality/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/defining-hospitality-4474091/balancing-business-and-humanity-david-shove-brown-defining-hospitality.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}