{"podcast":{"title":"Defense in Depth","slug":"defense-in-depth-427616","podcast_index_feed_id":427616,"rss_url":"https://defenseindepth.libsyn.com/rss","website_url":"https://cisoseries.com/","image_url":"https://static.libsyn.com/p/assets/7/b/7/b/7b7b86bb8e8f13f7/Defense-in-Depth-White-Border-Logo-3000x3000.png","author":"David Spark","episode_count":366,"summary":"Defense in Depth, hosted by David Spark, Steve Zalewski, Geoff Belknap, and Edward Contreras, promises clear talk on cybersecurity's most controversial and confusing debates. Once a week we choose one controversial and popular cybersecurity debate and use the InfoSec community's insights to lead our discussion.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-09T20:18:34.712795+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/defense-in-depth-427616"},"episode":{"title":"What Does the Next Generation of Cloud Security Look Like?","slug":"what-does-the-next-generation-of-cloud-security-look-like","published_at":"2026-05-28T10:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/defense-in-depth-427616/what-does-the-next-generation-of-cloud-security-look-like","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/defense-in-depth-427616","url":"https://defenseindepth.libsyn.com/what-does-the-next-generation-of-cloud-security-look-like","audio_url":"https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/defenseindepth/Defense_in_Depth_05-28-26.mp3?dest-id=1020683","summary":"All links and images can be found on CISO Series We know human-paced security controls can't be applied to autonomous AI agents. So what needs to change with CNAPP and cloud security? Check out this post for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week's episode co-hosted by David Spark , the producer of CISO Series , and Steve Zalewski . Joining us is our sponsored guest, Dan Benjamin , vp product - data, identity, and AI security, Palo Alto Networks . In this episode: The detection ceiling A category gap, not a feature gap Resilience by design An insider threat with no face A huge thanks to our sponsor, Palo Alto Networks Cortex Cloud unifies code, cloud, and SOC on a single data, risk, and control plane — giving teams the context, workflows, and agentic intelligence to turn risk into resolution. Native AI agents investigate and act within enterprise guardrails, delivering real-time protection from workload to network edge. Cloud security that outpaces machine-speed threats. Visit Palo Alto Networks and search cortex cloud.","meta_description":"All links and images can be found on CISO Series We know human-paced security controls can't be applied to autonomous AI agents. So what needs to change w…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2002,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/defense-in-depth-427616/episodes/what-does-the-next-generation-of-cloud-security-look-like/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/defense-in-depth-427616/what-does-the-next-generation-of-cloud-security-look-like.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}