{"podcast":{"title":"Defense in Depth","slug":"defense-in-depth-427616","podcast_index_feed_id":427616,"rss_url":"https://defenseindepth.libsyn.com/rss","website_url":"https://cisoseries.com/","image_url":"https://static.libsyn.com/p/assets/7/b/7/b/7b7b86bb8e8f13f7/Defense-in-Depth-White-Border-Logo-3000x3000.png","author":"David Spark","episode_count":366,"summary":"Defense in Depth, hosted by David Spark, Steve Zalewski, Geoff Belknap, and Edward Contreras, promises clear talk on cybersecurity's most controversial and confusing debates. Once a week we choose one controversial and popular cybersecurity debate and use the InfoSec community's insights to lead our discussion.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-09T20:18:34.712795+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/defense-in-depth-427616"},"episode":{"title":"Even With All These Security Vendors We Still Have Glaring Gaps","slug":"even-with-all-these-security-vendors-we-still-have-glaring-gaps","published_at":"2026-07-02T10:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/defense-in-depth-427616/even-with-all-these-security-vendors-we-still-have-glaring-gaps","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/defense-in-depth-427616","url":"https://defenseindepth.libsyn.com/even-with-all-these-security-vendors-we-still-have-glaring-gaps","audio_url":"https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/defenseindepth/Defense_in_Depth_07-02-26.mp3?dest-id=1020683","summary":"All links and images can be found on CISO Series There are thousands of cybersecurity vendors across categories. If there's a gap in the market, it's likely not for technical reasons. So, how do you actually find vendors that are a good fit rather than one that just meets technical requirements? Check out this post by Joe Head of REFLEX Solutions for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week's episode, co-hosted by me, David Spark , the producer of CISO Series , and Edward Contreras , senior evp and CISO, Frost Bank . Joining us is Ajit Girn , CIO, Employment Development Department (EDD). In this episode: Built for vendors, not users Signal versus noise Priced out The elegance gap A huge thanks to our sponsor, ThreatLocker ThreatLocker takes a deny-by-default approach to endpoint security — controlling what applications can run, what can access data, and what can elevate privileges. Used by organizations that want to reduce attack surface without relying on detection alone. Learn more at threatlocker.com/ciso .","meta_description":"All links and images can be found on CISO Series There are thousands of cybersecurity vendors across categories. If there's a gap in the market, it's like…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2036,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/defense-in-depth-427616/episodes/even-with-all-these-security-vendors-we-still-have-glaring-gaps/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/defense-in-depth-427616/even-with-all-these-security-vendors-we-still-have-glaring-gaps.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}