{"podcast":{"title":"Deconstructor of Fun","slug":"deconstructor-of-fun-223878","podcast_index_feed_id":223878,"rss_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/500026c/podcast/rss","website_url":"https://www.deconstructoroffun.com","image_url":"https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/staging/podcast_uploaded_nologo/738867/738867-1707997600386-9686d82cf1bc9.jpg","author":"Deconstructor of Fun","episode_count":793,"summary":"Deconstructor of Fun podcast is created by games professionals for games professionals. We explore the business side of the games industry with the goal of bringing listeners content that is relevant, insightful, and entertaining on a weekly basis. Hosts: Michail Katkoff www.linkedin.com/in/michailkatkoff/ Eric Kress www.linkedin.com/in/erickress/ Phillip Black www.linkedin.com/in/phillip-black-economist/ Jen Donahoe www.linkedin.com/in/jenniferdonahoe","last_synced_at":"2026-06-16T02:22:37.907775+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/deconstructor-of-fun-223878"},"episode":{"title":"From Mobile Games to Apps: Play Ventures $500M Fund","slug":"from-mobile-games-to-apps-play-ventures-500m-fund","published_at":"2026-05-11T18:37:41+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/deconstructor-of-fun-223878/from-mobile-games-to-apps-play-ventures-500m-fund","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/deconstructor-of-fun-223878","url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/deconstructoroffun/episodes/From-Mobile-Games-to-Apps-Play-Ventures-500M-Fund-e3j7jdr","audio_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/500026c/podcast/play/119835515/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-4-11%2F423945341-44100-2-41515b910b4d4.mp3","summary":"Why are gaming VCs shifting capital to consumer apps? In this episode, Henric Suuronen and Harri Manninen, founding partners of Play Ventures, one of gaming's top venture funds with $500 million under management and over 100 portfolio companies, break down how they evaluate founders, why they require a two-year vesting cliff, and what co-founder conflict really looks like from the investor side. We discuss the venture capital math behind gaming startup funding, why consumer apps trade at higher multiples than games, how to read founder chemistry during a pitch, and what Play Ventures looks for in early-stage teams from Istanbul to Singapore. A personal conversation between friends who funded my startup, Savage Game Studios, before its acquisition by PlayStation. CHAPTERS: 01:54 From Mobile Games to Apps 08:04 Backing Younger Hungry Teams 10:45 Founder Dynamics Due Diligence 15:54 Reading Founder Chemistry 20:44 Giving Clear Nos and Feedback 26:22 Board Truths and Founder Conflict 32:31 Impulsive Founder Decisions 35:54 Early Stage VC Role 41:48 Ecosystem Golden Eras 45:25 Scaling the VC Firm 49:41 Culture Without Hierarchy 55:14 Closing, Thanks, and Wrap","meta_description":"Why are gaming VCs shifting capital to consumer apps? In this episode, Henric Suuronen and Harri Manninen, founding partners of Play Ventures, one of gami…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3217,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/deconstructor-of-fun-223878/episodes/from-mobile-games-to-apps-play-ventures-500m-fund/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/deconstructor-of-fun-223878/from-mobile-games-to-apps-play-ventures-500m-fund.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}