{"podcast":{"title":"Decoding Tech","slug":"decoding-tech-7190029","podcast_index_feed_id":7190029,"rss_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/ffa6cbb0/podcast/rss","website_url":"https://computerhistory.org/","image_url":"https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/staging/podcast_uploaded_nologo/42791212/42791212-1738703611710-04aae1e723303.jpg","author":"Computer History Museum","episode_count":39,"summary":"Decoding Tech (from the Computer History Museum) explores the past, present and future of technology through conversations with today's leading experts as well as the pioneers and innovators of our on-going computing revolution. Programs are recorded live as a part of the museum's CHM Live events. Learn more at www.computerhistory.org","last_synced_at":"2026-07-09T00:19:31.137179+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/decoding-tech-7190029"},"episode":{"title":"Steve Jobs in Exile: NeXT and the Making of a Comeback","slug":"steve-jobs-in-exile-next-and-the-making-of-a-comeback","published_at":"2026-06-08T23:43:08+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/decoding-tech-7190029/steve-jobs-in-exile-next-and-the-making-of-a-comeback","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/decoding-tech-7190029","url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/computer-history-museum/episodes/Steve-Jobs-in-Exile-NeXT-and-the-Making-of-a-Comeback-e3kh7rl","audio_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/ffa6cbb0/podcast/play/121199925/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-5-8%2Fb54ef71f-232c-974d-b4e5-921db14fbddb.mp3","summary":"Most people know about Steve Jobs' amazing work at Apple, but what about his "wilderness years" when he created NeXT? Learn about this period from Geoffrey Cain , author of Steve Jobs in Exile: The Untold Story of NeXT and the Remaking of an American Visionary, along with key figures from NeXT’s history, including: Dan’l Lewin, Cofounder and VP of Sales and Marketing, NeXT Rich Page, Cofounder and VP of Hardware Engineering / Manufacturing, NeXT Avie Tevanian, VP of Engineering, NeXT Bud Tribble, Cofounder and VP of Software Engineering, NeXT This conversation was recorded on May 26, 2026, at the Computer History Museum in Mountain View, California. To watch a video of this program, please visit the Computer History Museum's YouTube channel. To learn more about the Computer History Museum and our upcoming CHM Live events, visit our website at www.computerhistory.org","meta_description":"Most people know about Steve Jobs' amazing work at Apple, but what about his \"wilderness years\" when he created NeXT? Learn about this period fr…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":4232,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/decoding-tech-7190029/episodes/steve-jobs-in-exile-next-and-the-making-of-a-comeback/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/decoding-tech-7190029/steve-jobs-in-exile-next-and-the-making-of-a-comeback.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}