{"podcast":{"title":"Decoding Tech","slug":"decoding-tech-7190029","podcast_index_feed_id":7190029,"rss_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/ffa6cbb0/podcast/rss","website_url":"https://computerhistory.org/","image_url":"https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/staging/podcast_uploaded_nologo/42791212/42791212-1738703611710-04aae1e723303.jpg","author":"Computer History Museum","episode_count":39,"summary":"Decoding Tech (from the Computer History Museum) explores the past, present and future of technology through conversations with today's leading experts as well as the pioneers and innovators of our on-going computing revolution. Programs are recorded live as a part of the museum's CHM Live events. Learn more at www.computerhistory.org","last_synced_at":"2026-07-09T00:19:31.137179+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/decoding-tech-7190029"},"episode":{"title":"Happy 40th Birthday Lisa: Apple’s Most Important Flop","slug":"happy-40th-birthday-lisa-apple-s-most-important-flop","published_at":"2025-10-29T12:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/decoding-tech-7190029/happy-40th-birthday-lisa-apple-s-most-important-flop","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/decoding-tech-7190029","url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/computer-history-museum/episodes/Happy-40th-Birthday-Lisa-Apples-Most-Important-Flop-e3a0rsm","audio_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/ffa6cbb0/podcast/play/110177622/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-9-24%2F707bd762-dfb7-f1b4-e41c-ad781a3f9dbc.mp3","summary":"How could a machine that transformed the way people interact with computers also be a commercial flop? On January 31, 2023, CHM gathered key insiders to celebrate the Apple Lisa’s innovations, explore its ongoing impact, and learn lessons from its failure. The Program was divided into three segments: "Birth" with original Lisa Team members Bruce Daniels, Wayne Rosing and John Couch (via recording) "This is Your Life, Lisa" with Graphic Designer Annette Wagner, Developer Bill Atkinson (via recording), and CHM's then President and CEO, Dan'l Lewin, who was the Lisa's Market Development Manager. "Death and Afterlife" with Steven Levy, Journalist and Wired Editor-at-Large The program was moderated by New York Times contributor and author Katie Hafner. This conversation was recorded at the Computer History Museum in Mountain View, California, as a part of the CHM Live series. To watch a video of this program, which includes a recorded Lisa demo and short film from The Verge , please visit the Computer History Museum's YouTube channel. To learn more about the Computer History Museum and our upcoming CHM Live events, visit our website at www.computerhistory.org","meta_description":"How could a machine that transformed the way people interact with computers also be a commercial flop? On January 31, 2023, CHM gathered key insiders to c…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":4283,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/decoding-tech-7190029/episodes/happy-40th-birthday-lisa-apple-s-most-important-flop/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/decoding-tech-7190029/happy-40th-birthday-lisa-apple-s-most-important-flop.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}