{"podcast":{"title":"Decoder with Nilay Patel","slug":"decoder-with-nilay-patel","podcast_index_feed_id":2123,"rss_url":"https://feeds.megaphone.fm/recodedecode","website_url":"https://theverge.com","image_url":"https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/5c6a4f4a-e69c-11e8-8066-17a10182e4c8/image/The_Verge_Decoder_Tileart_3000.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&max-w=3000&max-h=3000&fit=crop&auto=format,compress","author":"Vox Media Podcast Network","episode_count":932,"summary":"Decoder is a show from The Verge about big ideas — and other problems. Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse cast of innovators and policymakers at the frontiers of business and technology to reveal how they’re navigating an ever-changing landscape, what keeps them up at night, and what it all means for our shared future.","last_synced_at":null,"page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/decoder-with-nilay-patel"},"episode":{"title":"Dara Khosrowshahi on replacing Uber drivers — and himself — with AI","slug":"dara-khosrowshahi-on-replacing-uber-drivers-and-himself-with-ai","published_at":"2026-05-04T09:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/decoder-with-nilay-patel/dara-khosrowshahi-on-replacing-uber-drivers-and-himself-with-ai","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/decoder-with-nilay-patel","url":"https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/257/traffic.megaphone.fm/VMP1002402973.mp3?updated=1777854186","audio_url":"https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/257/traffic.megaphone.fm/VMP1002402973.mp3?updated=1777854186","summary":"Uber CEO Dara Khosrowshahi discusses the company's evolution into an 'everything app' that integrates hotel bookings and personal shopping. 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