{"podcast":{"title":"Data Over Dogma","slug":"data-over-dogma-6289697","podcast_index_feed_id":6289697,"rss_url":"https://feeds.megaphone.fm/ARML8571494714","website_url":"dataoverdogmapod.com","image_url":"https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/30d5272c-5647-11ee-88ea-bb95a2d4cc1b/image/e41a5a837d9ebec718d0b7e9c778f9b1.png?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&max-w=3000&max-h=3000&fit=crop&auto=format,compress","author":"Data Over Dogma Media, LLC","episode_count":164,"summary":"This ain't your pastor's Bible podcast. This is a deep interrogation of the book, and we're bringing receipts. Bible scholar Dr. Dan McClellan and atheist podcaster Dan Beecher team up to discover what the Bible actually says, what it decidedly doesn't say (even if everyone thinks it does), and explore the history of the most popular book of all time.","last_synced_at":null,"page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/data-over-dogma-6289697"},"episode":{"title":"Serving Up Scripture With Jennifer Garcia Bashaw and Aaron Higashi","slug":"serving-up-scripture-with-jennifer-garcia-bashaw-and-aaron-higashi","published_at":"2026-02-09T10:03:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/data-over-dogma-6289697/serving-up-scripture-with-jennifer-garcia-bashaw-and-aaron-higashi","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/data-over-dogma-6289697","url":"https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/tracking.swap.fm/track/YfZO4tERxneauNcW9Fgn/mgln.ai/e/211/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.megaphone.fm/ARML9603314911.mp3?updated=1770539091","audio_url":"https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/tracking.swap.fm/track/YfZO4tERxneauNcW9Fgn/mgln.ai/e/211/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.megaphone.fm/ARML9603314911.mp3?updated=1770539091","summary":"This week we're serving up two of the most charming authors you'll ever meet! Listeners may recognize the brilliant Aaron Higashi from past episodes, but this time he's bringing along the brilliant Jennifer Garcia Bashaw. Together they are the authors of the new book Serving Up Scripture: How to Interpret the Bible for Yourself and Others. We've talked many times on Data Over Dogma about the fact that, regardless of what people often say, the Bible doesn't mean anything on it's own. In order to find meaning, you must interpret it. In their book, Bashaw and Higashi give practical advice for how to do that interpretation consciously and effectively, and how to spot less useful or even harmful interpretations. Find their book wherever you get your best reading material, or just click this link: https://www.broadleafbooks.com/store/product/9798889835561/Serving-Up-Scripture ---- For early access to an ad-free version of every episode of Data Over Dogma, exclusive content, and the opportunity to support our work, please consider becoming a monthly patron at: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/DataOverDogma⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow us on the various social media places: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/DataOverDogmaPod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.twitter.com/data_over_dogma⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Have you ordered Dan McClellan's New York Times bestselling book ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Bible Says So⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ yet??? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices","meta_description":"This week we're serving up two of the most charming authors you'll ever meet! Listeners may recognize the brilliant Aaron Higashi from past episodes, but…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3997,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/data-over-dogma-6289697/episodes/serving-up-scripture-with-jennifer-garcia-bashaw-and-aaron-higashi/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/data-over-dogma-6289697/serving-up-scripture-with-jennifer-garcia-bashaw-and-aaron-higashi.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}