{"podcast":{"title":"Data Engineering Central Podcast","slug":"data-engineering-central-podcast-7106217","podcast_index_feed_id":7106217,"rss_url":"https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/1224799.rss","website_url":"https://dataengineeringcentral.substack.com/podcast","image_url":"https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/1224799/f928778615871704988ed827dec56683.jpg","author":"Data Engineering in Real Life","episode_count":32,"summary":"Long Live the Data Engineer. No holds barred.","last_synced_at":"2026-06-11T02:20:51.548626+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/data-engineering-central-podcast-7106217"},"episode":{"title":"How Real Data Engineers Think (Beyond Tools and Hype)","slug":"how-real-data-engineers-think-beyond-tools-and-hype","published_at":"2026-06-03T12:45:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/data-engineering-central-podcast-7106217/how-real-data-engineers-think-beyond-tools-and-hype","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/data-engineering-central-podcast-7106217","url":"https://dataengineeringcentral.substack.com/p/how-real-data-engineers-think-beyond","audio_url":"https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/195935277/aeb423f63bd322170b4e8e502f1169a6.mp3","summary":"In this episode of the Data Engineering Central Podcast, I sit down with Yordan Ivanov , Head of Data Engineering at a growing fintech company, to talk through what it actually looks like to build and run real data platforms in production. Yordan’s story starts like many of mine, early programming, gaming, PHP, Linux servers—but what makes this conversation interesting is how he evolved from a generalist software engineer into a data engineering leader without even realizing it at first. We spend a lot of time digging into what actually matters in modern data engineering, and it’s not the tools. Thanks for reading Data Engineering Central! This post is public so feel free to share it. We talk about: * Why the industry went too far into complexity and is now swinging back toward simplicity * The reality of running a data platform at scale (and why most teams waste time maintaining tools instead of delivering value) * How to think about migrations the right way without breaking everything * The difference between junior, mid, and senior engineers—and why ambiguity tolerance and impact matter more than coding ability * Why “perfect” engineering is a trap and how to actually ship work that matters We also get into AI, and Yordan has one of the more grounded takes you’ll hear right now. Most companies aren’t even close to ready for AI, and the idea that it’s replacing engineers anytime soon misses the bigger problem: messy data, unclear metrics, and weak foundations. Check out Yordan’s Substack below! We also talk about: * How AI is actually used on real teams today (not Twitter hype) * Why juniors with AI can be risky without strong processes * How to think about code reviews, testing, and slowing down when it matters On top of that, we dig into content creation, Substack,…","meta_description":"In this episode of the Data Engineering Central Podcast, I sit down with Yordan Ivanov , Head of Data Engineering at a growing fintech company, to talk th…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2952,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/data-engineering-central-podcast-7106217/episodes/how-real-data-engineers-think-beyond-tools-and-hype/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/data-engineering-central-podcast-7106217/how-real-data-engineers-think-beyond-tools-and-hype.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}